Four Knights of the Apocalypse/Nanatsu upgrade speed

[USklaverei]

Introdution​

In chapter 48, Fiddich was declared to attack with the speed of light and in chapter 49, Lancelot toyed with him. I did a calculation here on this, got 0.88c (Relativistic+), but I think Lancelot should be FTL since he casually joked while he had his hands in his pockets.
I don't think it affects anyone so far.

Conclusion​

Fiddich: Speed of Light attack speed with Haste (Declared to attack with the speed of light with its magic)

Lancelot: At least Relativistic+/(FTL??) (Avoided all of Fiddich's attacks while having his hands in his pockets)

 

[Slacjow]

Three problems:
1. I don't think it's meant to be taken literally. It's flowery language and is very common.
2. He didn't mention anything about the speed of light when describing his ability in Ch49. He just boasted about how they call him "thunderclap" and how it enhances his speed. But he didn't give any values or descriptions.
3. He is a fodder that is probably not even on the same level as BOS Gilthunder or other Holy Knights. The fastest character in the verse is currently rated as MHS+.

 

[USklaverei]

1- Flowery language because you want it, nothing indicates that, the text is literally describing that Percival was half destroyed by Fiddich's light speed attack.
2- He doesn't mention, it doesn't matter, he doesn't talk about a speed or anything like that, he mentions that this skill increases your speed and in the previous chapter we have the quote that is the speed of light, that's it.
3- Headcanon, also, this only scales up to Lancelot, so this argument doesn't work.

 

[Nierre]

following

 

[Majinere566]

I'd like to add that Arthur would narratively outscale Fiddich

and there's also a possibility that lancelot is already 7 deadly sins level

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

The only problem is that Lancelot is most likely below Ban from the beginning of the series, which creates inconsistencies.

I prefer to wait until Lancelot's level is better established.

 

[Damage3245]

So no actual lightspeed statement in the manga itself. I see.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

It is literally the description of the magic

 

[Nierre]

moyai.

 

[Damage3245]

It is literally the description of the magic

Not from any of the characters.

There isn't a whole lot of evidence that this character's attacks are lightspeed, especially given that in the final volume version of the series that summary will no longer exist. It's just magazine text.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Not from any of the characters.

It is quite normal for authors to explain characters' abilities in this way, in fact

 

[USklaverei]

The only problem is that Lancelot is most likely below Ban from the beginning of the series, which creates inconsistencies.

I prefer to wait until Lancelot's level is better established.

This is just your speculation until then.

 

[USklaverei]

Not from any of the characters.

There isn't a whole lot of evidence that this character's attacks are lightspeed, especially given that in the final volume version of the series that summary will no longer exist. It's just magazine text.

Yes, as far as I know, this is by the author himself

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

This is just your speculation until then.

Yes, of course, it is a speculation. But it is early to add something so massive with so little, we know nothing about how strong Lance is

 

[USklaverei]

Yes, since they don't even have profiles yet lol

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

So... Is this CRT basically useless?

 

[USklaverei]

Until the profiles are created yes

 

[BlackeJan]

Well isn’t the “im as fast as the speed of light” not enough evidence for it to be considered as such?

 

[Damage3245]

Well isn’t the “im as fast as the speed of light” not enough evidence for it to be considered as such?

The character doesn't actually say that.

 

[Majinere566]

If anything the only character with an existing profile this would affect is Arthur

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

If anything the only character with an existing profile this would affect is Arthur

Lancelot > Demon King, Escanor, Ten Commandments, King

 

[Majinere566]

Lancelot > Demon King, Escanor, Ten Commandments, King

you trolling right?

 

[Rabbit2002]

following

 

[LeSupremeKing1]

So no actual lightspeed statement in the manga itself. I see.

apparently its stated on the page he showed on the calc.

anyways agreeing. if its stated that the character's attack is SOL, and from a reliable source obviously seeing as it is from the author, then it should be fine applying it unless its contradicted.

 

[GroundX1]

I already saw that this will not be accepted

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Of course it won't be accepted, the profiles haven't even been created lol

I don't know why they did that

 

[LeSupremeKing1]

you don't need a profile for a calc to apply to a character lmao

 

[Majinere566]

But can we apply this to Arthur

 

[Damage3245]

But can we apply this to Arthur

No.

 

[Majinere566]

No.

Yes

 

[Dooyo]

Sadly, that is just probably an editor notes, if it was a Q/A form, that is literally from Nakaba, and therefore legit.

It doesn't matter anyway as new databook confirmed Ludoshel's grace as being SOL now.

Work on that.

 

[Steve_Rogers1]

It doesn't matter anyway as new databook confirmed Ludoshel's grace as being SOL now.

Post a link for it

 

[Alsotime]

Post a link for it

I think this what they are talking about.

we figured it out already

 

[Le'garde273]

I think this what they are talking about.

Is that the new one databook?

 

[Alsotime]

Is that the new one databook?

I believe so, but I'm not completely sure

 

[M3X_2.0]

I agree with the thread.

 

[Damage3245]

Sadly, that is just probably an editor notes, if it was a Q/A form, that is literally from Nakaba, and therefore legit.

It doesn't matter anyway as new databook confirmed Ludoshel's grace as being SOL now.

Work on that.

If the text on the side is just editor's notes / summaries, then yeah, I don't think we can use it. Such things don't get included in the volumes.

 

[Nacht]

So it won't be upgraded to speed of light 4koa?

 

[Zezu1995]

I believe so, but I'm not completely sure

more like new translations than a data book. but either way its new details

 

[Majinere566]

It doesn't matter anyway as new databook confirmed Ludoshel's grace as being SOL now.

Work on that.

I agree