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Four Knights of the Apocalypse/Nanatsu upgrade speed

DragonGamerZ913 said:
Look, NNT should be light speed, but BC has pretty much just as much reason to be light speed too. Bringing in another verse really doesn't help your case.

There's also Ark, which really should be light speed, but this is Four Knights and I don't really know how connected the two verses are so I'll leave that for later.

Anyways, this makes sense to me. I'm indifferent to Rel+ or FTL, Rel+ is more quantified via a calc but treating light speed as a joke is pretty self-explanatory.
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Wait why do you think Ark is Lightspeed?
 
DonnnLive said:
and then meliodas managed to blitz him again lmao. Imo meliodas has been ftl but rn she definitely should be off of vsbw logic
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I think we should wait for the FTL upgrade that Is coming lots of feats that were considered as outliers will be re evaluated
I agree with Fiddick’s attack speed being LS as for Lancelot scaling to it tho
 
Makai said:
I think we should wait for the FTL upgrade that Is coming lots of feats that were considered as outliers will be re evaluated
I agree with Fiddick’s attack speed being LS as for Lancelot scaling to it tho
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bro even if not "ftl" they have been mhs+ since season 1 . SO you telling me they didnt get no stronger. With vsbw logic gilthunder and ludociel are in the same speed tier. Its like they hate on the verse fa no reason. Ik where they scale to and have my own scale i just wanna see them higher on here
 
DonnnLive said:
bro even if not "ftl" they have been mhs+ since season 1 . SO you telling me they didnt get no stronger. With vsbw logic gilthunder and ludociel are in the same speed tier. Its like they hate on the verse fa no reason. Ik where they scale to and have my own scale i just wanna see them higher on here
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Stop saying they hate it here that won’t arrange our business a FTL upgrade is coming MH+ 7DS is finished my friend
 
Damage3245 said:
If the text on the side is just editor's notes / summaries, then yeah, I don't think we can use it. Such things don't get included in the volumes.
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These types of texts are from the author they are also in the unpublished versions And confirm a few things that aren’t said
It’s very common for Nakaba to not talk about the abilities And to explain them aside of the story like for the Resurrection of the 2 commandments Chapter 64
 
USklaverei said:

Introdution​

In chapter 48, Fiddich was declared to attack with the speed of light and in chapter 49, Lancelot toyed with him. I did a calculation here on this, got 0.88c (Relativistic+), but I think Lancelot should be FTL since he casually joked while he had his hands in his pockets.
I don't think it affects anyone so far.

Conclusion​

Fiddich: Speed of Light attack speed with Haste (Declared to attack with the speed of light with its magic)

Lancelot: At least Relativistic+/(FTL??) (Avoided all of Fiddich's attacks while having his hands in his pockets)
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Yo, idrk where this calc is rn but i wanted to tell that the panel that is used is completely canon 4kota raw panels are almost always full of notes about factual elements of the plots i can give a few example in a link that i’ll prepare
 
Okay so Here is the link with a few examples these panels are coming From a single chapter and i did not took them all.
To give further explanation on the nature of these notes They come From the author that’s the place where he answer Q/A And where he gives his email that’s entirely canon And it’s in the raws he also explain things about characters etc… like their magics or the fact that Chaos did resurrect the commandments the chapter before it was official
We absolutely 100% can use the informations that it gives to us
 
So FRA i think we should use this calc which is very consistent with the upgrades that are going on rn
(LS Vessel Ludeciel And ppl upscaling From him) we also agreed on the fact that Lance And Tristan are at least Archangel lvls (Tristan has 4 wings And could cut through amped melascula’s sealing without his enchantment which only AM Meli could do to a non amped version
 
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