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[Dragonite007]

They arent even real. They should be 10-C

??
If you talking about they been just a dream, so actually they should be 11-A

 

[BigSmoke4269]

And?
Not only do they follow specific patterns, but Nightmare literally has an endoskeleton, showing that Michael is aware of how animatronics are made and the dream uses this knowledge.

doesnt matter, dreams don’t make sense regardless of your knowledge on the subjects. their only feat is killing a child, something a small dog could do.

 

[Perequeliri993]

They arent even real. They should be 10-C

??
If you talking about they been just a dream, so actually they should be 11-A

Going by that logic, Dreadbear and Grim foxy should be 10-C do to being canonically part of a game and Isaac wouldn't even exist because all of the gameplay is in his mind.

 

[Dragonite007]

doesnt matter, dreams don’t make sense regardless of your knowledge on the subjects. their only feat is killing a child, something a small dog could do.

So, you don't have a argument and is just usinf argument of disbelief. Also don't make sense a person dreaming the exact same dream over and over again with exactly the same details.

A small dog can't kill a child, you need medium sized dog or a big dog

 

[ShionAH]

Going by that logic, Dreadbear and Grim foxy should be 10-C do to being canonically part of a game and Isaac wouldn't even exist because all of the gameplay is in his mind.

I thought they already had a 10C key?

??
If you talking about they been just a dream, so actually they should be 11-A

They are hallucinations no?

 

[Dragonite007]

Going by that logic, Dreadbear and Grim foxy should be 10-C do to being canonically part of a game and Isaac wouldn't even exist because all of the gameplay is in his mind.

Reality Equalization take care of it

 

[Dragonite007]

They are hallucinations no?

No, they are dreams/nightmares. Seeing someone as a dream or a thougt meets the requirements of R > F

 

[ShionAH]

No, they are dreams/nightmares. Seeing someone as a dream or a thougt meets the requirements of R > F

Well they can still effect the child so

 

[Bendynoah10]

Are we really arguing of they are a dream or not
People will count them as physical anyways
Tier 11 is the most useless tier

 

[Dragonite007]

Well they can still effect the child so

They just can affect the dream-child, not the real child (That is if it is a child who is dreaming).

 

[ShionAH]

They just can affect the dream-child, not the real child (That is if it is a child who is dreaming).

Idk

 

[Dragonite007]

Idk

If you die in a dream, you not going to die in real life.

What reinforces this is that we don't know what happens after the nightmares take over the child,

 

[BigSmoke4269]

So, you don't have a argument and is just usinf argument of disbelief.

what

Also don't make sense a person dreaming the exact same dream over and over again with exactly the same details.

yeah i agree that’s really strange, but it has no bearing on anything we’re talking about right now

A small dog can't kill a child, you need medium sized dog or a big dog

Oklahoma boy, 7, fatally mauled by family dog, authorities say

"We feel alone and lost without him," James McNeelis' father wrote on Facebook. The boy's grandmother said the family had only recently gotten the dog.

www.nbcnews.com

Small Dogs Can Be Aggressive and a Danger to Children

When people think of dangerous dogs, the breeds that they most likely picture will be the large animals with a reputation for aggressive behavior.

www.willumsenlawfirm.com

 

[BigSmoke4269]

They are hallucinations no?

we don’t know, that’s still just a popular theory

 

[ShionAH]

we don’t know, that’s still just a popular theory

Makes sense. They should be 11-A then and maybe a possibly 10-C rating?

 

[BigSmoke4269]

no because we are rating them based on their portrayal in the dreams

 

[Joaco0902]

At least 10-B physically likely 9-C via teeth and claws / hook


Fellas it's not that hard

 

[Dragonite007]

what

If someone break the moon in a dream, we do not assume that the moon is different from the real moon or that it is made of other material, we just input the normal value of moon destruction.

yeah i agree that’s really strange, but it has no bearing on anything we’re talking about right now

My argument was: that asking for realism in a game that isn't following realism is not an argument against the feat.

Oklahoma boy, 7, fatally mauled by family dog, authorities say

"We feel alone and lost without him," James McNeelis' father wrote on Facebook. The boy's grandmother said the family had only recently gotten the dog.

www.nbcnews.com

Small Dogs Can Be Aggressive and a Danger to Children

When people think of dangerous dogs, the breeds that they most likely picture will be the large animals with a reputation for aggressive behavior.

www.willumsenlawfirm.com

Even small dogs has 9-C via piercing damage

 

[ShionAH]

no because we are rating them based on their portrayal in the dreams

Why?

 

[Bendynoah10]

Why?

Because no one likes tier 11 tbh
People view it as worthless and they just don't use it

 

[Dragonite007]

Why?

Reality Equalization take care of it. Ralph is a exemple

 

[BigSmoke4269]

If someone break the moon in a dream, we do not assume that the moon is different from the real moon or that it is made of other material, we just input the normal value of moon destruction.

the moon is made out of a specific material, we know this 100% for sure. these animatronics have fake claws which could be made out of literally anything

My argument was: that asking for realism in a game that isn't following realism is not an argument against the feat.

but the feat relies on realism in the first place

Even small dogs has 9-C via piercing damage

i don’t think piercing damage can be directly translated to ap like that

 

[ShionAH]

Reality Equalization take care of it. Ralph is a exemple

Weird. Them being tier 11 is not as important as Ralphs case though

 

[ShionAH]

Should we just scale them to their UCN forms lol?

 

[BigSmoke4269]

why would we lol

btw ucn should be 9-B since nightmare bonnie breaks through the doors

 

[Dragonite007]

the moon is made out of a specific material, we know this 100% for sure. these animatronics have fake claws which could be made out of literally anything

They have endoskeleton, so we already has a idea about what they are made.

but the feat relies on realism in the first place

The feat is literally they been of metal or not

i don’t think piercing damage can be directly translated to ap like that

Yes, piercing damage can be directly translated to ap. Why do you think knifes have 9-C AP?

Can be 10-B, 9-C via piercing damage

 

[Dragonite007]

Weird. Them being tier 11 is not as important as Ralphs case though

Can be:

11-A in real life | 10-B, 9-C via pircing damage (dream world) | 9-C (UCN)

 

[Dragonite007]

In this rhythm this CRT will never end

 

[BigSmoke4269]

They have endoskeleton, so we already has a idea about what they are made.

they also seem to have plastic (such as nightmare’s outer shell) and fabric (on the “skin” of almost every animatronic). they aren’t only metal

The feat is literally they been of metal or not

yeah, so?

Yes, piercing damage can be directly translated to ap.

why? it only works by concentrating force on a small area. it’s like a form of soft dura neg

Can be 10-B, 9-C via piercing damage

i will concede to likely 10-B, possibly 9-C with piercing damage. we don’t see the effectiveness of their claws or teeth at all but they look dangerous enough ig

ucn should be 9-B since nightmare bonnie can break through the door. idk if that should scale to all of the ucn animatronics, but it should at least scale to the nightmares.

 

[ShockingPsychic]

Bill Cipher was 11-A due to being a dream for a lil bit, idk if that still applies.

However, as most of FNaF 4 takes place in this dream, that means we get to scale them as they are in the dream. So they should be 10-B, 9-C via weapons/piercing damage or whatever.

By this logic I also request a 10-B key for Glitchtrap.

Also the newest book all but confirms that Glitchtrap isn't William Afton so that change also needs reverted

 

[Dragonite007]

Also the newest book all but confirms that Glitchtrap isn't William Afton so that change also needs reverted

What book?

 

[ShockingPsychic]

What book?

Tales from the Pizzaplex #6: The Mimic

 

[Dragonite007]

Tales from the Pizzaplex #6: The Mimic

Elaborate plz, I don't read this story.

 

[Dragonite007]

Also the newest book all but confirms that Glitchtrap isn't William Afton so that change also needs reverted

Glitchtrap is already accept as not being Willian, so this is changing almost nothing

 

[ShockingPsychic]

The full story isn't out yet, but it basically explains Glitchtrap's origins. He's a virus that is "mimicking" (and slowly becoming) William Afton rather than a true reincarnation of him.

This is all from early copies getting leaked, the actual book comes out on May 2nd, so I guess we should wait for that before actually changing the profiles around.

Glitchtrap is already accept as not being Willian, so this is changing almost nothing

I remember a thread merging them, it may not have been this one though

 

[Dragonite007]

The full story isn't out yet, but it basically explains Glitchtrap's origins. He's a virus that is "mimicking" (and slowly becoming) William Afton rather than a true reincarnation of him.

This is all from early copies getting leaked, the actual book comes out on May 2nd, so I guess we should wait for that before actually changing the profiles around.

So... Basically a virus is becomig Afton and he manipulated vanny to recovery Willian dead body and use It, that is It?

 

[ShockingPsychic]

We have no idea how he got the body yet, but that seems to be the gist. Best to wait until the book is actually out though

 

[ShionAH]

The full story isn't out yet, but it basically explains Glitchtrap's origins. He's a virus that is "mimicking" (and slowly becoming) William Afton rather than a true reincarnation of him.

This is all from early copies getting leaked, the actual book comes out on May 2nd, so I guess we should wait for that before actually changing the profiles around.


I remember a thread merging them, it may not have been this one though

We merged them because their difference was not enough to make 2 different profiles

 

[BigSmoke4269]

Glitchtrap is already accept as not being Willian, so this is changing almost nothing

their profiles were recently merged

this is hilarious though lol

We merged them because their difference was not enough to make 2 different profiles

well now they are clearly different characters so

 

[ShionAH]

their profiles were recently merged

this is hilarious though lol

well now they are clearly different characters so

Not really. Its an AI that used a part of Aftons concious to become Afton. Which means it is Afton lol
At this point I am tired, 2 profiles for them is just stupid