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So after the large Zelda CRT that overhauled the tiers of all the characters, we forgot to also change the lifting strength and range for them. Several characters like Demise, Vaati, and Ganon have stellar and above range from when they still had their 4-A ratings but with the removal of those feats they shouldn't have that level of range anymore, Demise is Class E scaling to the four giants even though we don't scale him to them anymore (And Class T as the imprisoned because... reasons?), so on and so forth.
Demise is an easy fix, his lifting strength for both his keys should be at least Class M, likely higher since he's way stronger than the Gohma from Wind Waker. His range should also be Tens of Kilometers since he can make a storm that spans to the horizon (Been a while since I've dabbled in Skyward Sword so if he has better range feats or statements that scale him to Hylia or something lemme know). Vaatis range should be thousands of kilometers since he can make continent sized storms, although maybe he can have planetary range since he has the same source of power as Hylia? I dunno. Ganondorf is the same deal as Vaati for range due to a identical continental storm feat, but for his lifting strength his low end should be Class T via his old scaling to the Golden Gauntlets while his high end remains Class E, or whatever the Four Giants end up being, via his current possible scaling to them (Also applies to TP Link and his inexplicably swole arms), and also obviously his Class Z via telekinesis needs to go since we don't treat his endless night as him stopping the planet anymore. Everything that applies to Ganon also applies to Yuga Ganon. Wind Fish also needs his interstellar range changed as we don't treat anything he does as above on that level anymore.
Speaking of the Four Giants, we also need to figure out what their Class E rating should actually be since we don't treat the moon that Skull Kid/Majora drops as being the weight of the actual moon so we need to do something about that. Either calc the size and mass of the moon based on scaling it to Clock Town or find a way to calc the strength they'd need to physically halt something that's being moved with enough force to raze the planets surface.
Demise is an easy fix, his lifting strength for both his keys should be at least Class M, likely higher since he's way stronger than the Gohma from Wind Waker. His range should also be Tens of Kilometers since he can make a storm that spans to the horizon (Been a while since I've dabbled in Skyward Sword so if he has better range feats or statements that scale him to Hylia or something lemme know). Vaatis range should be thousands of kilometers since he can make continent sized storms, although maybe he can have planetary range since he has the same source of power as Hylia? I dunno. Ganondorf is the same deal as Vaati for range due to a identical continental storm feat, but for his lifting strength his low end should be Class T via his old scaling to the Golden Gauntlets while his high end remains Class E, or whatever the Four Giants end up being, via his current possible scaling to them (Also applies to TP Link and his inexplicably swole arms), and also obviously his Class Z via telekinesis needs to go since we don't treat his endless night as him stopping the planet anymore. Everything that applies to Ganon also applies to Yuga Ganon. Wind Fish also needs his interstellar range changed as we don't treat anything he does as above on that level anymore.
Speaking of the Four Giants, we also need to figure out what their Class E rating should actually be since we don't treat the moon that Skull Kid/Majora drops as being the weight of the actual moon so we need to do something about that. Either calc the size and mass of the moon based on scaling it to Clock Town or find a way to calc the strength they'd need to physically halt something that's being moved with enough force to raze the planets surface.
