Fixin' up Norse Kratos' profile

[Lilixa]

Ew. Kratos is far from immeasurable in speed. There'd be no need for the realm travel room.

yeah obviously i disagree immeasurable speed kratos via yggrdrasil dew.

 

[Lilixa]

another example is acausality type 4. Similiar feat in DMC.

 

[Aetheric Pariah]

For?

 

[Huzy]

I don't think Acausality type 4 causes any problems like Immeasurable speed.

 

[Lilixa]

For?

enemies in the game.

 

[Aetheric Pariah]

Tbh all the law stuff would need legitimate scans that helheim and the other realms operate under different laws.

 

[Shmooply]

Yea, the law manip stuff wouldn't be accepted if we don't have scans of that.

 

[Aetheric Pariah]

We'd need scans of the individual realms operating on separate cause and effect.

 

[Lilixa]

honestly law manipulation sounds like buzzword to me.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

for the example is kratos obtain yggdrasil dew which makes kratos has immeasurable speed. i think some user argue that it has similar feat in persona/SMT

So if in persona/smt that feat is accepted then so kratos.

Two different verses, with two different entire lore and cosmologies. Don't say one should get the other because it's similar unless it's 1:1.

 

[Lilixa]

Two different verses, with two different entire lore and cosmologies. Don't say one should get the other because it's similar unless it's 1:1.

well yes...

 

[Huzy]

So Norse Kratos having the Blades of Chaos is used as a justification of his ratings, if the Blades are enough to grant those ratings, shouldn't every version of canon Kratos have the same ratings due to all of them possessing the BoC or some powered up version of them?

 

[Hellbeast]

Unsure

I don't recall Kratos having those feats when he was a Demigod and his God self already scales to better

 

[Huzy]

I don't remember any feats (CoO maybe does but I haven't played it in a while so not sure) but the scaling would be valid if simply having the BoC grants that type of boost, Mjolnir does seem like a pretty big deal in the Norse realms so it should logically be legit.

 

[Aetheric Pariah]

Yes. The novel (GoW4) goes out of it's way to clarify the blades are separate from kratos, and kratos fears that his trip down memory lane would not be a temporary one. The blades are one of the very few weapons which are stated to be capable of killing a God.

 

[Huzy]

Yeah so every version of Kratos should get the ratings via the Blades of Chaos.

 

[Aetheric Pariah]

He already does. All GoW characters are rated the same now.

 

[Huzy]

Well Ascension Kratos doesn't despite having the Blades of Chaos.

 

[Aetheric Pariah]

Are you talking about hax or legitimate AP? Cause kratos wasn't beating titan+ enemies in Ascension lol.
Hax: Wouldn't backscale cause the feat happened in the newest game, kratos didn't have the feat in previous games. Same way we don't give GoW 3 kratos passive spatial manip from 4, cause he has no feats of doing so in 3.
AP/Scaling: Just like any other weapon, even if they are a power of their own, it still depends on the wielders power. Same way the BoO works in ascension multiplayer. The warriors were using the most powerful weapon in the entire series bar the Power of Hope, but ofc they can't use it anywhere near peak potency.
The Blades of Chaos work in a "if it needs the power it has it" manner, otherwise he'd have just one-shot every demigod and god in his path.
Best bet would be to say kratos before GoW1/PoH wasn't capable of using the blades to their fullest potential. It's not the blades modus operandi to one shot everything in it's path, nor would it being "this or that" powerful be a case to change any of kratos' ratings. Then it'd come down to "Why did kratos need the PoH if he had the blades to defeat Ares" and "Why did kratos need the gauntlet in Chains when he had the blades".

 

[Huzy]

I guess "he wasn't able to use their full potential" works.

 

[Lilixa]

Should Kratos get resistance negation for being able to weaken enemies inside Niflheim with the mist despite them apparently being immune to the mist in general?

has anyone check GoW lore and legend regarding cursed mist in nilfheim ? i believe the mist already deadly by outsider which means beings who originally lived in there has resistance to the mist.

But odin cursed the mist and make it deadly to beings who lived in nilfheim which means the cursed mist has resistance negation by itself.
and the enemies in nilfheim able to resist the cursed mist. so the enemies has resistance to resistance negation.

and since kratos able to weaken enemies inside Niflheim so would that mean kratos able to negate "resistance negation" resistance ?

 

[Aetheric Pariah]

 

[Aetheric Pariah]

Anyway, shouldn't atreus have Spatial Intangibility Negation for breaking revenants shrouds?

 

[Shmooply]

Anyway, shouldn't atreus have Spatial Intangibility Negation for breaking revenants shrouds?

Oh, right, what happened with that discussion again?

 

[Aetheric Pariah]

No clue. I believe it's pretty textbook tbh

 

[Lilixa]

has anyone check GoW lore and legend regarding cursed mist in nilfheim ? i believe the mist already deadly by outsider which means beings who originally lived in there has resistance to the mist.

But odin cursed the mist and make it deadly to beings who lived in nilfheim which means the cursed mist has resistance negation by itself.
and the enemies in nilfheim able to resist the cursed mist. so the enemies has resistance to resistance negation.

and since kratos able to weaken enemies inside Niflheim so would that mean kratos able to negate "resistance negation" resistance ?

and the fact Baldur has invulnerability to physical or magical. Would that means Baldur has ""resistance negation" resistance negation" resistance ?

 

[Lilixa]

ok i think i should stop here.

 

[Shmooply]

We're hitting resistance levels that shouldn't even be possible.

 

[Aetheric Pariah]

@Huzy
Just realized it was you who asked this question. What a goated question.

 

[Lilixa]

Anyway, shouldn't atreus have Spatial Intangibility Negation for breaking revenants shrouds?

hmm very interesting

 

[Lilixa]

should kratos has resistance to madness manip due to able resist illusion in helheim and valkyrie madness manip ?

 

[Lilixa]

is there any description about this energy ? blade of chaos able to use it.

 

[Aetheric Pariah]

should kratos has resistance to madness manip due to able resist illusion in helheim and valkyrie madness manip ?

Kratos already has Resistance to madness

 

[Huzy]

is there any description about this energy ? blade of chaos able to use it.

The energy was stored in Helson's stone thing, here's what Mimir said about it.

 

[Huzy]

has anyone check GoW lore and legend regarding cursed mist in nilfheim ? i believe the mist already deadly by outsider which means beings who originally lived in there has resistance to the mist.

But odin cursed the mist and make it deadly to beings who lived in nilfheim which means the cursed mist has resistance negation by itself.
and the enemies in nilfheim able to resist the cursed mist. so the enemies has resistance to resistance negation.

and since kratos able to weaken enemies inside Niflheim so would that mean kratos able to negate "resistance negation" resistance ?

I could if you tell me which section it's in.

 

[Huzy]

is there any description about this energy ? blade of chaos able to use it.

By the way, did you find anything else interesting in the Strategy Guide?

 

[Huzy]

This is from the God of War novel. Life force absorption for the Blades of Chaos?

 

[Stefano4444]

This is from the God of War novel. Life force absorption for the Blades of Chaos?

He already had that ability in his Greek profile, but i do recall that he don't have that in his Norse profile.

 

[Aetheric Pariah]

This is from the God of War novel. Life force absorption for the Blades of Chaos?

Yeah pretty self explanatory

 

[Huzy]

There are also statements of them absorbing power and not just life force.

Norse Kratos should get Absorption since he doesn't have it despite the Greek version having the ability.