Final Fantasy scaling (4-A to 3-C edition)

[PaChi2]

Well, after this we should discuss if the The After Years cast gets to scale to Omega and Shinryu. And thus become 4-A.

 

[ZeroTC01]

In addition to the 4-A calc's MFTL+ rating scaling to anybody. Just watching the video displaying the attack, though, I don't exactly see why that'd be the case at all. No one seems to have even reacted to it.

But I suppose we should leave that aside for now, unless there isn't much argument to be had.

 

[TartaChocholate]

If there's a statement saying that Overdrives allow to attain a higher power than usual or something (for example, Limit Breaks in VII are openly stated to reach powers beyond usual in a tutorial) similar, then 3-C with them could work fine given how close they are to 3-C at base.

 

[PaChi2]

Even if they dont attain a power greater than usual, Overdrives are their strongest techniques. And given that the gap is only a mere 30%, its safe to assume they can overcome it.

 

[TartaChocholate]

True enough. But there's likely a tutorial in-game about overdrives, it's likely it mentions how powerful the moves are and can be used as further explanation.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

The calc looks legit, but actually; there is lore about Omega and Shinryu being Low 2-C in FFV and Dissidia; though we'll wait for the FF1 revisions before confirming that. Shinryu was one of the reasons Chaos was becoming Low 2-C and has his own Low 2-C feat in Dissidia.

However, the FF8 cast scaling is fine; FFV cast might have additional keys though.

 

[Blackcurrant91]

So are we good to apply these changes or?

 

[Paul_Frank]

if shinryu and chaos get low 2-C they will be the least haxed low 2-Cs

 

[PaChi2]

So are we good to apply these changes or?

Im busy irl. You can start the editing whenever you want. At least with the FF VIII cast.

 

[Blackcurrant91]

Just updated Squall first. I also added some tabbers for his magic/junctions/limit breaks

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Squall_Leonhart

I am very new to editing profiles, if anyone could let me know if there is any errors before I update the rest of the ff8 cast.

 

[Blackcurrant91]

Im curious to what their durability possibly scales to. As they where able to tank shockwave pulsar who is considered stronger then Eden, but is he 30% stronger? Probably safer to keep it to 4-A durability instead of 4-A possibly 3-C durability as I have done it.

 

[Bware1]

Just updated Squall first. I also added some tabbers for his magic/junctions/limit breaks
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Squall_Leonhart

I am very new to editing profiles, if anyone could let me know if there is any errors before I update the rest of the ff8 cast.

You did a good job, just be sure to add 3-C with Limit Breaks.

 

[Blackcurrant91]

It is I think, he still has his 3-C key. Should I be more specific that's it's only when using limit breaks under attack potency?

 

[Bware1]

Yeah, uf we agreed Sorceress Adel isn't 3-C then yeah he and the cast should be At Least 4-A likely higher, 3-C with Limit Breaks

 

[Blackcurrant91]

Well they would stay At least 5-A possibly 4-A. They shouldn't get 'Likely Higher' for their physical Key. We could maybe give them 'Higher with limit breaks' I will be more specific in his tier key.

 

[Bware1]

Junctioning themselves to the most powerful GF's wouldn't count, add on the addition of spell buffs, and on top of that Limit Breaks?

 

[Blackcurrant91]

Yeah I get you. What spell buffs do you mean?

 

[Bware1]

Eden's Mad Rush Ability can grant Squall Beserker status Raising his attack power, plus His Gunblade Trigger Boosts Damage Even Further. It also possible to Boost Gaurdian Forces strongest abilites. https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Boost_(ability)#Final_Fantasy_VIII https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Final_Fantasy_VIII#Story

 

[Blackcurrant91]

Probs do another CRT for that. Gonna just update their AP/Tabbers for now (I have reformatted Squalls resistances just now)

 

[Blackcurrant91]

So should ff8 cast be 'At least 5-A likely 4-A' instead of 'possibly' and then 'possibly 3-C' with overdrives.

The cast where easily able to defeat people who could seal Eden and this was also when Ultimecia sealed all of their GF's and thus most of their strength.

 

[Blackcurrant91]

Hey dudes. I am thinking that ff8 cast should get a definitive 3-C key for their power level in disc 4. They are absolutely at this stage significantly stronger then Eden. I think Griever potentially deserves to keep his 3-C key as well and thus Quistis.

So at least 5-A possibly 4-A for disc 3 and 4-A possibly 3-C for disc 4.

let me know what you think.

 

[SinsofMan]

The gap between 4-A and baseline 3-C is only 2 Zettafoe away. Seems fine to me, as I said on discord.

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[DarkDragonMedeus]

Yeah, we should still have 3-C if it's that close.

 

[Blackcurrant91]

So all are happy with Squall having a disc 3 key and a disc 4 key? (he gonna have a lot of keys lol)

 

[Blackcurrant91]

He does have 3-C with overdrives in his current keys. Just gonna simplify it and keep it to at least 4-A possibly 3-C and 3-C with overdrives.

 

[Blackcurrant91]

Weird how Omega's page is closed. Can anyone unlock it for me?

 

[PaChi2]

Weird how Omega's page is closed. Can anyone unlock it for me?

You could ask an admin or content mod.

 

[TartaChocholate]

So at least 5-A possibly 4-A for disc 3 and 4-A possibly 3-C for disc 4.

let me know what you think.

This sounds pretty good to me. As it has been mentioned, it makes sense given how close they are to the high end of 4-A and scaling should be enough, on top of other boosts they can get.