Fairy Tail: Selene Makes The Moon Thicc As Hell

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Ok, so thanks to good ole KingTempest, Size Manipulation feats can now be scaled to AP and as we know, our good ole Dragon Milf Selene did a major Size Manipulation feat. She made the moon way bigger than it was before, approximately making it 948x bigger than before. Now Size Manipulation feats when it comes to the Celestial Bodies involves scaling the Size Manipulation to the GBE of the new sized Celestial Body and Selene's Big Moon was calced and accepted as a GBE of 2.7 Yottatons, which is baseline 5-A.

So this feat passively happens via Human Form Selene getting a little bit serious, so it scales to Human Form Selene and all of the Human Forms of the Dragon Gods, as well as all of the God Tiers above. Now as we know, Base Suzaku backscales from Human Form Selene, however since making the moon bigger was literally just a passive biproduct of Selene getting a little bit serious, scaling Base Suzaku to this feat should be acceptable. And characters like Base Laxus would be scaling lower than Base Suzaku to Baseline 5-B+ (1.38 Yottatons).

Now this is actually supported by some small stuff that on it's own isn't solid, but with a solid 5-A calc, it now has solid basis and does support this meta. Base Zeref is stated to have power that rivals the Phoenix, which is constantly stated to be capable of destroying the entire world. And Post-SBT says that he will surpass time and destroy the world. Elentear is going to explode and cease to exist because Selene's prescence is filling the planet with so much magic power, that it's ridiculous.

Now this effects the Top Tiers and God Tiers obviously and this would be the scaling off the top of my head

5-B+ (1.38 Yottatons): X793 Pre-Elentear FDKM Natsu, X793 Base Laxus, X793 Strongest Armors Erza, Base Zeref, X792 Dragon Force Natsu, and people on their level

5-A (2.7 Yottatons): Human Form Selene, Base Suzaku, Haku, Kirin, Misaki, Pre-SBT Human Form Acnologia, X793 Pre-Elentear Dragon Force Natsu

5-A (2.76 Yottatons): Limit Break Team Natsu

5-A (5.52 Yottatons): X792 Dragon Force+FDKM Natsu, Igneel’s Power+FDKM Natsu, Savage Dragon Fire Form Natsu, Fairy Heart Form Zeref, Pre-SBT Dragon Form Acnologia, Full Power Dragon Gods, and people on their level

5-A (11.04 Yottatons): Ignia’s Power+FDKM Natsu, Post-SBT Human Form Acnologia, and people on their level

5-A (22.08 Yottatons): Seven Fire Dragons Mode Natsu, Post-SBT Dragon Form Acnologia, and people on their level

So yeah, the time has finally come where we can implement this insane feat

 

[CloverDragon03]

I can't believe this is actually being discussed, but yes I agree with applying the calc. However, I have a question:

Why is X793 DF Natsu scaling to 2.7 yottatons?

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

I can't believe this is actually being discussed, but yes I agree with applying the calc. However, I have a question:

Why is X793 DF Natsu scaling to 2.7 yottatons?

Scaling above Human Form Selene and downscaling from Full Power Aldoron

 

[FinePoint]

Absolute insanity.

I agree.

 

[CloverDragon03]

Scaling above Human Form Selene and downscaling from Full Power Aldoron

Pretty sure we say he's somewhat comparable to his full power, so he just downscales from the 5.52 yottaton value.

Also, I will say, this really also helps explain how DF+FDKM Natsu could vaporize FH Zeref when he allowed himself to get hit

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Pretty sure we say he's somewhat comparable to his full power, so he just downscales from the 5.52 yottaton value.

Also, I will say, this really also helps explain how DF+FDKM Natsu could vaporize FH Zeref when he allowed himself to get hit

That's fine

 

[Peter1129]

I never thought I’d see the day when Fairy Tail becomes tier 5 outside of Alta Face

Anyways i agree with the upgrade. A 5-A feat plus a bunch of 5-B statements should be enough for this to go through.

 

[KingTempest]

Now I see what I started

So Selene
A. Can blow up a damn planet
B. Can turn the moon into a planet
C. Scales above people who can destroy a planet

This extremely consistent.

Well done Mitch, I agree

 

[Zencha9]

i never thought i would see the day but here it is
anyways i agree

 

[JirensMom]

Agree

 

[StrawHatArslan]

I agree

 

[Popted2]

i agree

 

[GroundX1]

Gray, Natsu base and Wendy climb?

 

[CloverDragon03]

Gray, Natsu base and Wendy climb?

5-A Wendy for more than just her Limit Break makes me happy beyond belief

 

[TheForgottenKing]

Chief idk bout this one

but I mean it makes sense so I agree for now

 

[StrawHatArslan]

fairy tail solos naruto and one piece now XD (at once)

 

[ShadowGun45]

I never thought I’d see the day when Fairy Tail becomes tier 5 outside of Alta Face

I say the same

i agree with the upgrade.

 

[Peter1129]

Also I’m not sure if I’m just forgetting a scaling but why are Limit Break Team Natsu 2.76 Yottatons and not 2.7 Yottatons? Like where did the extra 0.06 Yottaton come from again?

Edit: Oh wait nevermind I see where it came from it’s the 5-B+ value x2. I’m stupid.

 

[KingTempest]

Ok, so thanks to good ole KingTempest, Size Manipulation feats can now be scaled to AP

#1 Here's the thread

https://vsbattles.com/threads/calculating-hax-size-manipulation-and-transmutation-quantifying-creation-and-change-in-mass.132291/

#2 Thanks for the props

 

[GroundX1]

Will the characters scale up to the lifting force of it? (Class Z)

 

[Zaratthustra]

This should work...didn't expect but damn.

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Will the characters scale up to the lifting force of it? (Class Z)

No, since no one lifted it or anything, this ain't Edens Zero

 

[AnimesFreak2]

I though it was High 5-A ( large planet for Selene's feat )

Also CALLED IT that this thread would be made

Anyways agree

 

[CloverDragon03]

I though it was High 5-A ( large planet for Selene's feat )

Also CALLED IT that this thread would be made

Anyways agree

High 5-A is Dwarf Star level, funnily enough

 

[Livinmeme]

I mean non canon naruto has Universal feats... but non canon fairy tail has a 5-D being so meh

Seems fine agree

 

[Nierre]

holy guacamole i agree
ggs mitch

 

[Damage3245]

Visually speaking, the Moon appears a lot bigger. I take it we're just assuming that the mass was increased for it in this case?

 

[Theendzero13]

Agree

 

[Deceived3596]

I Agree.

 

[Damage3245]

Elentear is going to explode and cease to exist because Selene's prescence is filling the planet with so much magic power, that it's ridiculous.

Which chapter is this from?

 

[AnimesFreak2]

High 5-A is Dwarf Star level, funnily enough

Oh my bad

I remember now

5-A is Large Planet

High 5-A is Dwarf Star

 

[KingTempest]

Which chapter is this from?

85

 

[Damage3245]

85

Okay. I reread chapters 87 & 88 which followed that, and I don't think that point given in the OP is a supporting point for Selene.

Alta says that it is due to Selene distorting the magical power that he was able to attain free will and start destroying the world by filling it with magic power.

Alta is clarified to be the one responsible for giving that world overflowing magical power.

So with this context, I don't think it is a matter of "Selene is putting so much magic power into the world that she could destroy it" but rather "Selene's magic power caused Alta to become unsealed/attain free will and Alta Face as the source of magic power is what will inevitably destroy the world."

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Visually speaking, the Moon appears a lot bigger. I take it we're just assuming that the mass was increased for it in this case?

Yes, since we know so far is that she made is bigger, I also agree it’s possible she just moved it, but until we actually learn that, all we know is she made it way bigger

Okay. I reread chapters 87 & 88 which followed that, and I don't think that point given in the OP is a supporting point for Selene.

Alta says that it is due to Selene distorting the magical power that he was able to attain free will and start destroying the world by filling it with magic power.

Alta is clarified to be the one responsible for giving that world overflowing magical power.

So with this context, I don't think it is a matter of "Selene is putting so much magic power into the world that she could destroy it" but rather "Selene's magic power caused Alta to become unsealed/attain free will and Alta Face as the source of magic power is what will inevitably destroy the world."

I can agree with this, I’m just saying she’s responsible for a portion of a 5-B feat

 

[CloverDragon03]

Okay Mitch, you've recently been putting in these superfluous points that don't actually support the argument. We've known that Alta Face was the one that would destroy Elentear overtime. All that needed to be mentioned was the 5-A calc, because it's a calc.

 

[CloverDragon03]

Yes, since we know so far is that she made is bigger, I also agree it’s possible she just moved it, but until we actually learn that, all we know is she made it way bigger

It's incredibly doubtful that it was moved anyway. All context points to it being made bigger.

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Okay Mitch, you've recently been putting in these superfluous points that don't actually support the argument. We've known that Alta Face was the one that would destroy Elentear overtime. All that needed to be mentioned was the 5-A calc, because it's a calc.

I know, but I wanted to add them in

They’ve been stuck in a folder labeled “Planet level Fairy Tail” collecting dust, waiting for this day to be used

I couldn’t help myself

 

[CloverDragon03]

I know, but I wanted to add them in

They’ve been stuck in a folder labeled “Planet level Fairy Tail” collecting dust, waiting for this day to be used

I couldn’t help myself

Honestly, I respect that too much to hold it against you

 

[PhoenixFirestorm]

I would agree with this. If the previous thread had most characters like the Spriggan's to be High 6-A which I agree on, it wouldn't make sense for the God Tiers to remain on that level because it's obvious that Fairy Heart Zeref, Acnologia and the Dragon Gods are obviously much higher than the Spriggans.

Plus, very good supporting claims on Selene increasing the size of the moon.

 

[Eseseso]

The power-scaling distortion. It's beautiful.

Agree with 5-A Selene.