Fairy Tail - Potential Speed upgrade

[Ciruno_Fortes_(COB)]

Chapter 359 page 22-24, may be different depending on which site you use.

Or Fairy Tail episode 235 on its last few minutes.

Basically Natsu reacts to an explosion and what does he do? Mid-trigger he reacts fast enough to eat it. Much more impressive in the anime too since we actually see Natsu reacting once the explosion already happened.

http://imgur.com/a/2OAnT

Basically, MHS buff

 

[WeeklyBattles]

iirc reacting to explosions is only Hypersonic - Hypersonic+...

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Fairy tail forever hypersonic+ besides the dragons it seems, still hypersonic+ after so many arcs it's a shame.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

lol at least its consistent, but hey i could be wrong it might be higher, someone should probably calc it first before you take my word on it.

 

[Ciruno_Fortes_(COB)]

Doesn't it depend on how fast you react? Or err, might be mixing things up. Then again no one really makes a statement about Laxus' lightning drop when defending everyone from Hades and that's probably something better to start with here....

Edit - Either way Natsu has enough of a speed to actually move his face as the explosion moves before it could cover the family he's protecting. I think that should be calced just in case imo.

 

[NotEvenHuman]

There's really no way of figuring out the speed of the explosion, si nce it's not a bomb or anything. Jackal uses curses. Even if it was a bomb, Natsu moved before the explosion happened, not during it.

 

[Ciruno_Fortes_(COB)]

Yes. He uses a curse. Called the Bomb curse. Which are bombs. That explode. Like bombs. Which is described as heat explosions by Happy and the others and Natsu eats. Like actual bombs... They're explosions.

Actually in the anime it shows him moving after the bomb already triggered. It's much more visually showing there.

 

[Antvasima]

We have the following page, if somebody wants to calculate the feat: Explosion Speed Calculations

 

[NotEvenHuman]

It's called the bomb curse because it blows stuff up like one and he can put a timer on them. They're magical explosions, not actual bombs made with technology. And since when do we take an attack's name into consideration when trying to figure out it's speed or strenght?

Also, the anime is not canon.

 

[Ciruno_Fortes_(COB)]

Oh supernatural explosions really aren't allowed. Darn. Then again it looks really like an actual explosion so maybe just to try?

Edit - I don't know, when your entire attacks are literal explosions? They certainly don't look like arcane energy when they explode aside from when they're being set up. Not saying they're instantly explosions since I conceded above but they should be considered at least. Then again I suppose FT buffs aren't looked at favourably here. Oh well.

I've been seeing that a lot in arguments lately. Then what would stop the feat from being considered once you use "Anime version Natsu". Isn't the purpose of an anime to show feats? I don't see people complaining once they pick the anime on how to interpret a feat on OPM instead of the manga which actually nerfed his speed.

 

[Soldier_Blue]

Then again I suppose FT buffs aren't looked at favourably here. Oh well.

We're not like the OBD here when it comes to Fairy Tail. We give Fairy Tail its fair share of attention and don't downplay it. If we were like the OBD here when it comes to Fairy Tail, most of the top tiers would be still stuck at small city level and we wouldn't have as many detailed profiles. There are still a lot of issues to resolve but I believe we treat Fairy Tail decently here.

 

[Soldier_Blue]

I've been seeing that a lot in arguments lately. Then what would stop the feat from being considered once you use "Anime version Natsu". Isn't the purpose of an anime to show feats? I don't see people complaining once they pick the anime on how to interpret a feat on OPM instead of the manga which actually nerfed his speed.

Calc groups here and on the OBD, TMF, even T5 generally ignore anime feats since they tend to be quite inconsistent and fudge up the power scales. This is especially true with the HST, Dragon Ball, Fairy Tail, Yu Yu Hakusho. If we went by anime feats, pretty much everyone on pre-time-skip Byakuya Kuchiki level and up in Bleach would be mountain level, YYH top tiers would be continent level, Dragon Ball would be way stronger. The opposite is true where the animated series is considered primary canon (like Blood+ or Canaan or RWBY for example).

In the end, it comes down to what is considered primary canon. In Fairy Tail's case, it's the manga. Plus the Fairy Tail anime is horribly inconsistent with feats and is even worse with the power scales than the manga.

As for OPM, I can't comment on that as I am not up to date with this verse. You'll have to ask a staff member here who is knowledgeable about this verse about that.

 

[NotEvenHuman]

Our OPM profiles are composite. I think it's because One supervised the production of the anime or something like that.

 

[AidenBrooks999]

Magical Explosion =/= Real ones.


End of History and Discussion.

 

[CNBA3]

Isn't Jellal's speed the same as that of a meteor speed? With his Meteor spell?

 

[Soldier_Blue]

Isn't Jellal's speed the same as that of a meteor speed? With his Meteor spell?

Just because the spell is called meteor doesn't mean he's actually that fast.

 

[CNBA3]

Just because the spell is called meteor doesn't mean he's actually that fast.

Well, Jellal described his Grand Chariet to have the same impact as that of a falling meteor, and impact requires speed too, and his meteor spell is from the same category, so it wouldn't be illogical that they are similar in speed that way.

 

[Ciruno_Fortes_(COB)]

It's always disadvantegous for magic spells to be treated this way.

Either way I still see the lightning feat from Laxus and the addition of this feat to be consistent.