• This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.

    For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here.
  • We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.

    Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.

    Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page.
  • Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.

Fairy Tail DSM: Magic Nullification Nullification

FinePoint

FinePoint

He/Him
VS Battles
Thread Moderator
Image Helper
3,633
2,504
Proposal: Magic Resistance Negation and/or Powernull Negation to Dragon Slayer Magic

Reasoning: Dragon Slayer Magic damaged Dorma Amin which had a coat of armor which nullified all other magical attacks, as well as the Eclipse Gate which was resistant to magical attacks.

Scans:
"https://***********.com/read-online/Fairy-Tail-chapter-190-page-7.html

https://***********.com/read-online/Fairy-Tail-chapter-190-page-13.html

https://***********.com/read-online/Fairy-Tail-chapter-191-page-3.html

https://***********.com/read-online/Fairy-Tail-chapter-190-page-15.html

Even Mystogan reflecting the Dorma Anim own attack back at him has no effect on it

https://***********.com/read-online/Fairy-Tail-chapter-190-page-11.html

https://***********.com/read-online/Fairy-Tail-chapter-190-page-12.html

https://***********.com/read-online/Fairy-Tail-chapter-190-page-13.html

But yet dragon slayers are stated to be the only ones who can beat the animated dragon and dragon slayer magic can affect the Dorma Anim

https://***********.com/read-online/Fairy-Tail-chapter-190-page-15.html

https://***********.com/read-online/Fairy-Tail-chapter-190-page-18.html

https://***********.com/read-online/Fairy-Tail-chapter-190-page-19.html

the eclipse gate it is stated to be a type of metal that is a extremely resistant to magic and not even Lucy and Yukino giving it everything they had was enough to put a scratch on it https://***********.com/read-online/Fairy-Tail-chapter-336-page-10.html

Yet Natsu destroyed the gate by accident when he was pushed by Atlas flame and he headbutted Future rouge and the 2 of them along with motherglare slammed into it https://***********.com/read-online/Fairy-Tail-chapter-336-page-20.html
https://***********.com/read-online/Fairy-Tail-chapter-336-page-21.html
https://***********.com/read-online/Fairy-Tail-chapter-337-page-3.html

The gate also instantly absorbs the strength of any one who uses magic in the vicinity so most don’t even get a chance to use magic when near the gate https://***********.com/read-online/Fairy-Tail-chapter-302-page-17.html " - Courtesy of senseikeleon
 
Last edited:
Personally, I don't think either the Eclipse example or the Dorma Amin are enough on their own, given extraneous factors, but combined they make a convincing argument.
 
I'm unsure about the Eclipse Gate, but I fully agree with Dorma, given that it's stated multiple times how its armor is immune to magic and it's not related to it looking like a dragon. And we don't know if DS magic bypasses it due to its appearance, it just does it.
 
SamanPatou said:
I'm unsure about the Eclipse Gate, but I fully agree with Dorma, given that it's stated multiple times how its armor is immune to magic and it's not related to it looking like a dragon. And we don't know if DS magic bypasses it due to its appearance, it just does it.
Click to expand...
Right, it's also possible that DSM negates powernull on dragons as well as their resistances, but doesn't extend to non-dragon cases.
 
Here are the scans for the eclipse gate it is stated to be a type of metal that is a extremely resistant to magic and not even Lucy and Yukino giving it everything they had was enough to put a scratch on it https://***********.com/read-online/Fairy-Tail-chapter-336-page-10.html


Yet Natsu destroyed the gate by accident when he was pushed by Atlas flame and he headbutted Future rouge and the 2 of them along with motherglare slammed into it https://***********.com/read-online/Fairy-Tail-chapter-336-page-20.html
https://***********.com/read-online/Fairy-Tail-chapter-336-page-21.html
https://***********.com/read-online/Fairy-Tail-chapter-337-page-3.html

The gate also instantly absorbs the strength of any one who uses magic in the vicinity so most don’t even get a chance to use magic when near the gate https://***********.com/read-online/Fairy-Tail-chapter-302-page-17.html
 
FinePoint said:
Right, it's also possible that DSM negates powernull on dragons as well as their resistances, but doesn't extend to non-dragon cases.
Click to expand...
It's possible, yes, but the point is that we are not sure, and saying that it powernulls everything that looks like a dragon is a bit too much as an assumption.
 
senseikeleon said:
Here are the scans for the eclipse gate it is stated to be a type of metal that is a extremely resistant to magic and not even Lucy and Yukino giving it everything they had was enough to put a scratch on it https://***********.com/read-online/Fairy-Tail-chapter-336-page-10.html


Yet Natsu destroyed the gate by accident when he was pushed by Atlas flame and he headbutted Future rouge and the 2 of them along with motherglare slammed into it https://***********.com/read-online/Fairy-Tail-chapter-336-page-20.html
https://***********.com/read-online/Fairy-Tail-chapter-336-page-21.html
https://***********.com/read-online/Fairy-Tail-chapter-337-page-3.html

The gate also instantly absorbs the strength of any one who uses magic in the vicinity so most don’t even get a chance to use magic when near the gate https://***********.com/read-online/Fairy-Tail-chapter-302-page-17.html
Click to expand...
Thank you.
 
SamanPatou said:
It's possible, yes, but the point is that we are not sure, and saying that it powernulls everything that looks like a dragon is a bit too much as an assumption.
Click to expand...
I was thinking the other way around, that it'd be more of an assumption to assume it powernulls everything even if it isn't a dragon, but the revelation of the Eclipse Gate seems to support that it's universal.
 
FinePoint said:
I'm thinking the other way around, that it'd be more of an assumption to assume it powernulls everything even if it isn't a dragon, but the revelation of the Eclipse Gate seems to support that it's universal.
Click to expand...
It’s not that it powernulls everything it’s that it’s Abel to bypass armors and defensive items that are able to power null all other types of magic as seen in the case with the Dorma

The eclipse gate is an item that is a highly strong metal that is highly resistant to magic and sucks up the magic in the area not even Lucy or yukino giving it there all could even put a scratch on the gate

but the gate has no Offensive capabilities so DSM could still be powernulled by magic like Dispel or something it’s just that it can bypass armors or stagnant or defensive items that are capable of power nulling magic
 
Magic Resistance Negation is very possible via damaging/destroying the Dorma Anim (Armor Nullifies Magic) and Eclipse Gate (Material Resists Magic) but an argument for "Power Nullification Resistance" for DSM is possible via DSM not being nullified by Dorma Anim's armor.
 
There’s a possibility for either or

but I personally I don’t think resistance to power null fits as good as the other proposition because DSM can still get nullified as far as I recall it’s not like Erza’s wedding dress armor where it was shown to not be Abel to be nullified

it’s just DSM can bypass items or magic that grants extreme resistances or immunity to magic

I personally think limited magic resistance negation would fit best based on the Dorma stuff and the eclipse gate stuff
 
Doesn't GIldarts vs. Natsu disprove it resisting powernull, since Gildarts was perfectly able of nullifying it like any other spell?
 
FinePoint said:
Doesn't GIldarts vs. Natsu disprove it resisting powernull, since Gildarts was perfectly able of nullifying it like any other spell?
Click to expand...
Well Guildarts magic breaks down other forms of magic therefore rendering them ineffective but it doesn’t nullify it like the Dorma Anim does

like if guildarts used his crash magic against the Dorma his magic would have no effect

infact we even see his magic is Abel to be nullified in his battle against Byro who specifically has nullification magic
 
senseikeleon said:
Well Guildarts magic breaks down other forms of magic therefore rendering them ineffective but it doesn’t nullify it like the Dorma Anim does

like if guildarts used his crash magic against the Dorma his magic would have no effect

infact we even see his magic is Abel to be nullified in his battle against Byro who specifically has nullification magic
Click to expand...
It's listed as nullification on his profile.
 
Crash Magic Nullifies other magic by breaking down into pieces.

"It can even be used to both crack Magic into pieces, nullifying its effects, as well as to reduce the Magic's power and to deflect it."
 
FinePoint said:
It's listed as nullification on his profile.
Click to expand...
Yea Because he does technically nullify the spell and it’s effects but he just does it breaking the specific spell down like how he broke down Natsu’s Fire dragon roar spell the spell was nullified because it was broken into pieces

but crash magic doesn’t nullify magic the same way as the Eclipse Gate or the Dorma
 
Yeah there are like 5 different versions of power null in Fairy tail, crash magic, nullification magic, bane particles, magic burning, and now Hakune's nullification.

I would also like to point out that Dragon slayers should have some degree of power null resistance given multiple Dragon slayers were able to resist Bane particles and still use their magic unlike other wizards.
 
FT has too many different types of magics that do the same thing. Like ....... Weakness Magic let Wall power null Laxus' Jutsu Shiki which has MBP that destroy magic. Why is the thing that destroys the other the one getting destroyed? Anima (sucks you into another dimension while turning you into Lacrima) is resisted by DS but SBT (which sucks you into another dimension and seals you into crystal) is not. Natsu also doesn't just tear his way despite doing so to the World of Nil.
 
AnonymousBlank said:
FT has too many different types of magics that do the same thing. Like ....... Weakness Magic let Wall power null Laxus' Jutsu Shiki which has MBP that destroy magic. Why is the thing that destroys the other the one getting destroyed? Anima (sucks you into another dimension while turning you into Lacrima) is resisted by DS but SBT (which sucks you into another dimension and seals you into crystal) is not. Natsu also doesn't just tear his way despite doing so to the World of Nil.
Click to expand...
This is why layered resistance is a thing.
 
Zackra1799 said:
I would also like to point out that Dragon slayers should have some degree of power null resistance given multiple Dragon slayers were able to resist Bane particles and still use their magic unlike other wizards.
Click to expand...
And Yea im pretty sure that’s an affect of there lungs being physically like that of a dragons due to there DSM
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

McHael15
  • Locked
Upgrade Thread for Fairy tail
Replies
6
Views
1K
McHael15
McHael15
KeigoTakami89
Lucy Heartfilia Upgrade
Replies
3
Views
2K
Zeinx1
Zeinx1
Eseseso
  • Locked
Fairy Tail 100 Years Quest: Lowest 5-A Revision and Madmole Durability Revision
2
Replies
59
Views
3K
DemonGodMitchAubin
DemonGodMitchAubin
DemonGodMitchAubin
  • Locked
Fairy Tail: The Brokeness of Dragon Slayers Continues
Replies
13
Views
1K
DemonGodMitchAubin
DemonGodMitchAubin
Eseseso
2 Fairy Tail Dragon Slayer Revisions
Replies
15
Views
1K
AnonymousBlank
AnonymousBlank
Back
Top