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Fairy Tail 100 Year Quest Discussion Thread: Post-Void Saga

Hey, I was looking at Lucy's page, and the link to her Yokai form being several times stronger than base seems to be the wrong translation, since it says "many times stronger" instead of "several".
 
Hey, I was looking at Lucy's page, and the link to her Yokai form being several times stronger than base seems to be the wrong translation, since it says "many times stronger" instead of "several".
It's several times in the raws
 
So yeah… Human Form Dogramag is kinda slapping Natsu and Suzaku, meaning Human Form Dogramag is stronger than the Selene that Suzaku fought… But he’s the weakest of the Dragon Gods… So WTF! I guess it’s possible while he has the weakest AP, he might have the greatest durability of the Dragon Gods cause you know, rocks and shit. Either that or that means Selene used like 1% of her power against Suzaku… Ridiculous

It seems like Hiro is really unclear with how he wants to scale the Human Forms of Dragon Gods, cause now Selene is helping Team Fairy Tail to weaken Dogramag, so it’s literally Aldoron all over again

I’m guessing Hiro never wants to have Natsu 1v1 a full power Human Form Dragon God
 
So yeah… Human Form Dogramag is kinda slapping Natsu and Suzaku, meaning Human Form Dogramag is stronger than the Selene that Suzaku fought… But he’s the weakest of the Dragon Gods… So WTF! I guess it’s possible while he has the weakest AP, he might have the greatest durability of the Dragon Gods cause you know, rocks and shit. Either that or that means Selene used like 1% of her power against Suzaku… Ridiculous

It seems like Hiro is really unclear with how he wants to scale the Human Forms of Dragon Gods, cause now Selene is helping Team Fairy Tail to weaken Dogramag, so it’s literally Aldoron all over again

I’m guessing Hiro never wants to have Natsu 1v1 a full power Human Form Dragon God
actually heard that if it weren't for Selene's wounds she would be able to take Dog on.
 
So yeah… Human Form Dogramag is kinda slapping Natsu and Suzaku, meaning Human Form Dogramag is stronger than the Selene that Suzaku fought… But he’s the weakest of the Dragon Gods… So WTF! I guess it’s possible while he has the weakest AP, he might have the greatest durability of the Dragon Gods cause you know, rocks and shit. Either that or that means Selene used like 1% of her power against Suzaku… Ridiculous

It seems like Hiro is really unclear with how he wants to scale the Human Forms of Dragon Gods, cause now Selene is helping Team Fairy Tail to weaken Dogramag, so it’s literally Aldoron all over again

I’m guessing Hiro never wants to have Natsu 1v1 a full power Human Form Dragon God
Well, tbf, Dogramug has been recovering for 100 years, so he's likely not as weak as when Elfseria killed him.

Also, remember that Elfseria still said his "dead" body radiated with power "worthy of the name Dragon God", not to mention that Natsu and Suzaku couldn't break his walls.
 
I'm pretty sure Dogramug now is just stronger than when he fought Elfseria 100 years ago due to resting and gathering his strength.
 
On another subject, was there ever anything confirming that the post-Elentear people in Base weren't as strong as when they broke their limits against Alta Face?
 
You know, for a moment the site wasn't working for me due to one of those 404 errors, and part of me thought it was due to Mitch being so mad that the DDSK might have to lose their 5-A status that his rage made the site momentarily break down!

XD
 
I don’t think they will lose 5-A. Suzaku did defeat a casual Selene that performed the 5-A feat. All this means is that the Human Form Dragon Gods are much much stronger than characters that are baseline 5-A.
 
I'm pretty sure Dogramug now is just stronger than when he fought Elfseria 100 years ago due to resting and gathering his strength.
The manga states this and Selene confirms this by saying Elefseria's heart is stronger than his body now

So we know for a fact that Dogramag is stronger than he was in the past and is arguably the most durable Human DG with feats like these
 
Besides, Elfseria literally said Dogramug's "dead" body still has power "worthy of the name Dragon God", so even when weakened he was still comparable,
 
Besides, Elfseria literally said Dogramug's "dead" body still has power "worthy of the name Dragon God", so even when weakened he was still comparable,
Comparable is a weak word here.

remember there is someone who can beat him yet still falls short of the remaining 5.

unless he means comparable to his power prior to elefseria, which in case, yes, i agree with y’all.

tho a dead DG still being considered so is huge hype for them.
 
Besides, Elfseria literally said Dogramug's "dead" body still has power "worthy of the name Dragon God", so even when weakened he was still comparable,
Elefseria said that he body grew and his true magic showed, basically Dogramag somehow got stronger after his "death" and kept getting stronger
 
Also, this shouldn’t downgrade the DDSK. It just means that Selene in her human form is stronger than she led everyone to believe.

they still scale to her casual feat.
 
Say it with me. "Selene was Lying". everything falls into place after that.
And yeah Selene says she could take Dogramag herself if she wasn't wounded.
Still not proven by anything, Natsu and Suzaku can’t hurt Dogramag, yeah, but they’re taking attacks from him like nothing, and this is after them already taking prior damage from each other and then a big attack from Ignia, and remember this is Base Natsu. We’re not gonna ignore statements and call them lies until we actually get confirmation they were lies
Looks like you DDSK nerds took another L

Selene faked her defeat was clear as crystal
Still not proven…
You know, for a moment the site wasn't working for me due to one of those 404 errors, and part of me thought it was due to Mitch being so mad that the DDSK might have to lose their 5-A status that his rage made the site momentarily break down!

XD
Nah, Suzaku still very much scales to the Selene who performed the 5-A feat casually. At worst, it just means Selene used EVEN LESS power than we thought to perform that feat. Meanining Selene’s 0.1% Power is like 5-A
Also, this shouldn’t downgrade the DDSK. It just means that Selene in her human form is stronger than she led everyone to believe.

they still scale to her casual feat.
This^

People always in a rush to claim the DDSK’s are fodder
 
Still not proven by anything, Natsu and Suzaku can’t hurt Dogramag, yeah, but they’re taking attacks from him like nothing, and this is after them already taking prior damage from each other and then a big attack from Ignia, and remember this is Base Natsu. We’re not gonna ignore statements and call them lies until we actually get confirmation they were lies

Still not proven…

Nah, Suzaku still very much scales to the Selene who performed the 5-A feat casually. At worst, it just means Selene used EVEN LESS power than we thought to perform that feat. Meanining Selene’s 0.1% Power is like 5-A

This^

People always in a rush to claim the DDSK’s are fodder
Stay away from mangahelpers if you don’t want your sanity destroyed. The spriggan cult is big over there.
 
We do have more than just a them scaling to a casual human DG. We don’t have to opt for that. We know people like Erza described Suzaku as being powerful beyond her imagination, and that they scale to a current gildarts, who scales above his Alvarez arc. They are set.
 
Purely in denial at this point. Dogramag is already the weakest DG and he's nerfed from his slumber. Yet despite 2v1ing him, Natsu and Suzaku can't do crap and will need to have their opponent nerfed 72 times. It's obvious that these guys are nowhere near human DG level. And what even is the point of denying the lie anymore? According to you Human Selene used a very small portion of her power. You realize that that statement is already in contradiction of Selene saying she would be no match for Suzaku in her human form right? It's a lie just accept it. Doesn't even change anything since Suzaku still probably scales to the moon thing and that was just a SUPER casual Selene.
At what point does Selene say she was lying? Where’s the confirmation of that? Because until we get confirmation of that, you’re just choosing to ignore a very blatant scaling statement because it doesn’t fit your preconceived notions of the scaling. There are many caviats to every feat you presented

Ugh, you probably also think Irene is above the DDSK’s
 
I do actually thinks it’s possible Dogormag is stronger than he was 100 years ago

its stated by Elefseria that Dogormag’s body has continued to radiate Dragon God levels of power meaning that his power hasn’t diminished at all in the past 100 years

And it’s sorta implied that he has gotten even stronger since his death as it’s mentioned in chapter 93 that the labyrinth that was Initially made over 100 year ago has continued to grow in size over the past 100 years

And even though it was through different methods we know that Aldoron’s body grew as a result of his power continuing to grow so the fact that the labyrinth grew in size could point to Dogormag’s growing stronger over the past 100 years

Another implication is that fact Dogormag’s corpse was the catlyst that amped Elefseria’s heart far above what his physical body is capable of due to the power of Dogormag’s corpse

Meaning Dogromag’s corpse power> current Elefseria’s physical strength> Dogormag’s from 100 years ago

So we know that Dogormag hasn’t gotten any weaker since his death. the labyrinth has only continued to grow in size and his power was the catalyst that amped
Elefseria’s heart far above what current Elefseria’s physical body is capable of All could possibly point to Dogormag’s being stronger than he was 100 years ago and at the very least we know he isn’t any weaker than he was 100 years ago
 
Still not proven…
Hiro needed to bring AGAIN a nerf mechanic in order to let the MCs win.Because,you know,neither of them are on NERFED DG Tier.

Selene said that she can defeat dog by herself if she was not injured.

Your mentalgymnastics were never proven.You pushing a fake win over feats and portrayal.DG´s just ***** on DDSK´s.Ignia treated them both like shit and Dog is a ant for Ignia and Natsu/Suzaku are ants for Dog

DDSK´s are just fodders
 
Idk why people are so quick to rush to Diablos and the new villains always being fodder

Whether it's

- Spriggan level Dragon Gods

- BDSK get stomped by Spriggan 12

- Gildarts didn't get stronger

ect etc

Not exactly like Acnologia and the Spriggan 12 were interesting characters for the most part anyways


Like look....I am not saying it's impossible for Mashima to retcon previous scaling ( it certainly wouldn't be the first time at least )


But so far....this hasn't proved anything


Current Dogramag is heavily implied to be stronger than his past self


- It's stated by Elefseria that Dogormag’s body has continued to radiate Dragon God levels of power even in death

- Dogramag....much like Aldoron has been absorbing power from the lands to grow in power over the years ( hence the maze getting bigger every year ) and hell he even seems to have orbs to stabalize his massive power just like Aldoron, but around 8x as much orbs or so heavily implying he may even be stronger than Aldoron now

- Selene outright confirms Dogormag’s corpse was the catlyst that amped Elefseria’s heart is FAR above what his physical body is now capable of handling which is even more proof of how much stronger he has gotten over the years

- The fact that despite knowing how strong Natsu is ( at least having when he fought Aldoron ) via Elesferia Heart which grants him the power of "Law Dragon"he is still confident in at least matching Natsu even while weakened himself which further implies he has started surpassing his fellow Dragon Gods


So until further notice it just means Current Dog man>>>>>Past Dog Man
 
Idk why people are so quick to rush to Diablos and the new villains always being fodder

Whether it's

- Spriggan level Dragon Gods

- BDSK get stomped by Spriggan 12

- Gildarts didn't get stronger

ect etc

Not exactly like Acnologia and the Spriggan 12 were interesting characters for the most part anyways


Like look....I am not saying it's impossible for Mashima to retcon previous scaling ( it certainly wouldn't be the first time at least )


But so far....this hasn't proved anything


Current Dogramag is heavily implied to be stronger than his past self


- It's stated by Elefseria that Dogormag’s body has continued to radiate Dragon God levels of power even in death

- Dogramag....much like Aldoron has been absorbing power from the lands to grow in power over the years ( hence the maze getting bigger every year ) and hell he even seems to have orbs to stabalize his massive power just like Aldoron, but around 8x as much orbs or so heavily implying he may even be stronger than Aldoron now

- Selene outright confirms Dogormag’s corpse was the catlyst that amped Elefseria’s heart is FAR above what his physical body is now capable of handling which is even more proof of how much stronger he has gotten over the years

- The fact that despite knowing how strong Natsu is ( at least having when he fought Aldoron ) via Elesferia Heart which grants him the power of "Law Dragon"he is still confident in at least matching Natsu even while weakened himself which further implies he has started surpassing his fellow Dragon Gods


So until further notice it just means Current Dog man>>>>>Past Dog Man
The thought of their favorite waifu's getting surpassed, just isn't a pleasant thought to them
 
Uh … y’all know that the DDSK > DGs doesn’t fall apart until Abyss Slash fails against one of their human forms. Casual attacks that are being thrown around rn don’t matter at all.
Considering that Natsu survived that attack and is weaker than human form DG, it would make sense that she was playing them then
 
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