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I respect that.Meh that’s fine
To be honest, I’ve never been a fan of matches on the forums, like I don’t really like debating on them cause I usually just don’t care who wins
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I respect that.Meh that’s fine
To be honest, I’ve never been a fan of matches on the forums, like I don’t really like debating on them cause I usually just don’t care who wins
It's several times in the rawsHey, I was looking at Lucy's page, and the link to her Yokai form being several times stronger than base seems to be the wrong translation, since it says "many times stronger" instead of "several".
I know that, but the link on Lucy's profile says "many", meaning that it's the wrong translation.It's several times in the raws
Ignore itI know that, but the link on Lucy's profile says "many", meaning that it's the wrong translation.
Ok then, just wanted to let you know.Ignore it
actually heard that if it weren't for Selene's wounds she would be able to take Dog on.So yeah… Human Form Dogramag is kinda slapping Natsu and Suzaku, meaning Human Form Dogramag is stronger than the Selene that Suzaku fought… But he’s the weakest of the Dragon Gods… So WTF! I guess it’s possible while he has the weakest AP, he might have the greatest durability of the Dragon Gods cause you know, rocks and shit. Either that or that means Selene used like 1% of her power against Suzaku… Ridiculous
It seems like Hiro is really unclear with how he wants to scale the Human Forms of Dragon Gods, cause now Selene is helping Team Fairy Tail to weaken Dogramag, so it’s literally Aldoron all over again
I’m guessing Hiro never wants to have Natsu 1v1 a full power Human Form Dragon God
Well, tbf, Dogramug has been recovering for 100 years, so he's likely not as weak as when Elfseria killed him.So yeah… Human Form Dogramag is kinda slapping Natsu and Suzaku, meaning Human Form Dogramag is stronger than the Selene that Suzaku fought… But he’s the weakest of the Dragon Gods… So WTF! I guess it’s possible while he has the weakest AP, he might have the greatest durability of the Dragon Gods cause you know, rocks and shit. Either that or that means Selene used like 1% of her power against Suzaku… Ridiculous
It seems like Hiro is really unclear with how he wants to scale the Human Forms of Dragon Gods, cause now Selene is helping Team Fairy Tail to weaken Dogramag, so it’s literally Aldoron all over again
I’m guessing Hiro never wants to have Natsu 1v1 a full power Human Form Dragon God
Ah, ok.Wendy said the power would only be temporary
he did say that he was nerfed when he was made his debut.I'm pretty sure Dogramug now is just stronger than when he fought Elfseria 100 years ago due to resting and gathering his strength.
Yeah, the reason why he remains in human form.he did say that he was nerfed when he was made his debut.
which is weirdYeah, the reason why he remains in human form.
The manga states this and Selene confirms this by saying Elefseria's heart is stronger than his body nowI'm pretty sure Dogramug now is just stronger than when he fought Elfseria 100 years ago due to resting and gathering his strength.
Not really. If he is nerfed it makes sensewhich is weird
Comparable is a weak word here.Besides, Elfseria literally said Dogramug's "dead" body still has power "worthy of the name Dragon God", so even when weakened he was still comparable,
Elefseria said that he body grew and his true magic showed, basically Dogramag somehow got stronger after his "death" and kept getting strongerBesides, Elfseria literally said Dogramug's "dead" body still has power "worthy of the name Dragon God", so even when weakened he was still comparable,
Still not proven by anything, Natsu and Suzaku can’t hurt Dogramag, yeah, but they’re taking attacks from him like nothing, and this is after them already taking prior damage from each other and then a big attack from Ignia, and remember this is Base Natsu. We’re not gonna ignore statements and call them lies until we actually get confirmation they were liesSay it with me. "Selene was Lying". everything falls into place after that.
And yeah Selene says she could take Dogramag herself if she wasn't wounded.
Still not proven…Looks like you DDSK nerds took another L
Selene faked her defeat was clear as crystal
Nah, Suzaku still very much scales to the Selene who performed the 5-A feat casually. At worst, it just means Selene used EVEN LESS power than we thought to perform that feat. Meanining Selene’s 0.1% Power is like 5-AYou know, for a moment the site wasn't working for me due to one of those 404 errors, and part of me thought it was due to Mitch being so mad that the DDSK might have to lose their 5-A status that his rage made the site momentarily break down!
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This^Also, this shouldn’t downgrade the DDSK. It just means that Selene in her human form is stronger than she led everyone to believe.
they still scale to her casual feat.
Stay away from mangahelpers if you don’t want your sanity destroyed. The spriggan cult is big over there.Still not proven by anything, Natsu and Suzaku can’t hurt Dogramag, yeah, but they’re taking attacks from him like nothing, and this is after them already taking prior damage from each other and then a big attack from Ignia, and remember this is Base Natsu. We’re not gonna ignore statements and call them lies until we actually get confirmation they were lies
Still not proven…
Nah, Suzaku still very much scales to the Selene who performed the 5-A feat casually. At worst, it just means Selene used EVEN LESS power than we thought to perform that feat. Meanining Selene’s 0.1% Power is like 5-A
This^
People always in a rush to claim the DDSK’s are fodder
This.Uh … y’all know that the DDSK > DGs doesn’t fall apart until Abyss Slash fails against one of their human forms. Casual attacks that are being thrown around rn don’t matter at all.
At what point does Selene say she was lying? Where’s the confirmation of that? Because until we get confirmation of that, you’re just choosing to ignore a very blatant scaling statement because it doesn’t fit your preconceived notions of the scaling. There are many caviats to every feat you presentedPurely in denial at this point. Dogramag is already the weakest DG and he's nerfed from his slumber. Yet despite 2v1ing him, Natsu and Suzaku can't do crap and will need to have their opponent nerfed 72 times. It's obvious that these guys are nowhere near human DG level. And what even is the point of denying the lie anymore? According to you Human Selene used a very small portion of her power. You realize that that statement is already in contradiction of Selene saying she would be no match for Suzaku in her human form right? It's a lie just accept it. Doesn't even change anything since Suzaku still probably scales to the moon thing and that was just a SUPER casual Selene.
Hiro needed to bring AGAIN a nerf mechanic in order to let the MCs win.Because,you know,neither of them are on NERFED DG Tier.Still not proven…
The thought of their favorite waifu's getting surpassed, just isn't a pleasant thought to themIdk why people are so quick to rush to Diablos and the new villains always being fodder
Whether it's
- Spriggan level Dragon Gods
- BDSK get stomped by Spriggan 12
- Gildarts didn't get stronger
ect etc
Not exactly like Acnologia and the Spriggan 12 were interesting characters for the most part anyways
Like look....I am not saying it's impossible for Mashima to retcon previous scaling ( it certainly wouldn't be the first time at least )
But so far....this hasn't proved anything
Current Dogramag is heavily implied to be stronger than his past self
- It's stated by Elefseria that Dogormag’s body has continued to radiate Dragon God levels of power even in death
- Dogramag....much like Aldoron has been absorbing power from the lands to grow in power over the years ( hence the maze getting bigger every year ) and hell he even seems to have orbs to stabalize his massive power just like Aldoron, but around 8x as much orbs or so heavily implying he may even be stronger than Aldoron now
- Selene outright confirms Dogormag’s corpse was the catlyst that amped Elefseria’s heart is FAR above what his physical body is now capable of handling which is even more proof of how much stronger he has gotten over the years
- The fact that despite knowing how strong Natsu is ( at least having when he fought Aldoron ) via Elesferia Heart which grants him the power of "Law Dragon"he is still confident in at least matching Natsu even while weakened himself which further implies he has started surpassing his fellow Dragon Gods
So until further notice it just means Current Dog man>>>>>Past Dog Man
Considering that Natsu survived that attack and is weaker than human form DG, it would make sense that she was playing them thenUh … y’all know that the DDSK > DGs doesn’t fall apart until Abyss Slash fails against one of their human forms. Casual attacks that are being thrown around rn don’t matter at all.
Selene wasn’t surpassed, not sure what you mean.The thought of their favorite waifu's getting surpassed, just isn't a pleasant thought to them