Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature may not be available in some browsers.
I would not consider the feat against these fake clones to be equivalent to the real one shot.Spinjitzu is a big enough AP boost that Zane who was matching a clone of him in base was able to Defeat him instantly and one-shot him using Spinjitzu
Looks like he just throws them away. Is there any proof that he killed or knocked them out? Also, this would be the equivalent of a single one-shot at most, since he doesn't counter to all of them at once.using Spinjitzu allowed him to one-shot three of them.
Garmadon might use the element of destruction (which allows him to summon energy blasts that have existence erasure).
Kaido can see the start of this attack seconds before and warn Bigmom about this attack, and both of them can block this attack or both can neutralize or destroy this attack before it reaches them due to their long range.Kaido's precog with advanced observation haki
It doesn't really matter against Kaido's Thunder Bagua's speed blitz boost.Spinjitzu also gives a speed boost that allows the jay who was fighting the Skulkin alongside the Ninja at normal speed in base to precieve them in slow motion
Okay, now explain how Wu do this?Nothing stops Wu from yeeting Kaido and Big Mom into a Reality Warped dimension and seal them off forever
By the swipe of his hands. He can also create Dragons and portals using RW, and recreate entire places, even from other Universes, that the Ninjas visitedOkay, now explain how Wu do this?
One Piece side has AP advantage and fear hax advantage, Ninjago side has Sealing and Reality Warping advantageAlright, looking at all this
What be the wincons for both sides?
What does this do? To nothing. Besides, it's not even something he did in the battle.
Dragons seem to create these portals. Is there any proof/scene of Wu creating portals?He can also create Dragons and portals using RW, and recreate entire places, even from other Universes, that the Ninjas visited
You know you have to decide for yourself what you consider a wincon, right?Alright, looking at all this
What be the wincons for both sides? Hm, i see. Ill let more arguments come in before i cast a vote
Where exactly do they resist sleep hax?One Piece side has AP advantage and fear hax advantage,
Yeah, i know, but i would like as much information as i can before making a vote.You know you have to decide for yourself what you consider a wincon, right?
Wu barely has fights with EP in the show, so if he's gonna use his powers, its either his Elemental Dragon, Energy blasts or RW that gets used. Also, he can BFR them using it. Without them, he just pulls out Spinjitzu but he can't use it here bc its a speedblitz lvl ampWhat does this do? To nothing. Besides, it's not even something he did in the battle.
Those Dragons are all created by Wu. The power of Creation basically about creating anything out of nothing. The previous scan also implies he designed all the missions the Ninjas experienced (including the Dragons) to train themDragons seem to create these portals. Is there any proof/scene of Wu creating portals?
They don'tWhere exactly do they resist sleep hax?
I am pretty sure he can because Kaido's thunder bagua is also a speedblitz level ampSpinjitzu but he can't use it here bc its a speedblitz lvl amp
Oh now things gets funI am pretty sure he can because Kaido's thunder bagua is also a speedblitz level amp
Wu's willpower was strong enough to resist the corrupting and mind controlling effect of the dark matter in the dark island which corrupts anything that comes into contact with it.Where exactly do they resist sleep hax?
With his future vision, Kaido already sees these portals before they open and can dodge them, so it's really useless, plus Flame Dragon form is way too big for these portals.he can BFR them using it.
There is no mention of supernatural willpower here, and supernatural willpower is not even in the profile in first place.Wu's willpower was strong enough to resist the corrupting and mind controlling effect of the dark matter in the dark island which corrupts anything that comes into contact with it.
And a strong and supernatural willpower should give resistance to the sleep hax effects of Haoshoku.
allow for resistance to basic Hao or does that require specifically supernatural willpower or resistance to sleep manipulation?Mind and Morality Manipulation, Madness Manipulation (Type 1 and 2), Corruption (Both Types), Soul Manipulation, Perception Manipulation
Is there an instance where Garmadon adds the element of destruction to his spinjitzu? Even if it does, Kaido sees Garmadon doing this seconds before, so he can either hit Garmadon with his thunder bagua before Garmadon does it, or keep his distance until his Spinjitzu expires.
These resistances alone don't mean anything, context is important and given the context, definitely not.Also a question, would resistance to these abilities:
They always doIs there an instance where Garmadon adds the element of destruction to his spinjitzu? Even if it does, Kaido sees Garmadon doing this seconds before, so he can either hit Garmadon with his thunder bagua before Garmadon does it, or keep his distance until his Spinjitzu expires.
Ye, Elemental Masters combine their Element within their Spinjitzu.So let me get this clear
Spinjitzu always activates whatever elemental affinity a user has when they perform the technique, correct?
Thank you for letting me know, that helps a lotYe, Elemental Masters combine their Element within their Spinjitzu.
It's Season 1 WuAlso, is Sensei Wu wearing his black Kimono? Bc if he does, he has sealing with it
Oh... Well I don't see what Wu and Garmadon can do much if its their S1 selves. Even the Spinjitzu AP boost wouldn't be of much help since its unquantifiable. Their best hope is Garmadon's shadow illusions who are IntangibleIt's Season 1 Wu
I'm pretty sure Wu doesn't have a huge amount of growth over the series, he should still have most of his powers.Oh... Well I don't see what Wu and Garmadon can do much if its their S1 selves. Even the Spinjitzu AP boost wouldn't be of much help since its unquantifiable. Their best hope is Garmadon's shadow illusions who are Intangible
We don't really see the extend of Wu's powers till Post Master of the Mountain.I'm pretty sure Wu doesn't have a huge amount of growth over the series, he should still have most of his powers.
Yeah, but that's mostly because he just doesn't use them, he didn't like, train to get them or anything, he just didn't have them when they didn't exist and then the writers said he did.We don't really see the extend of Wu's powers till Post Master of the Mountain.
ye sameYeah if Wu and Garmadon dont have their really funny stuff then i may have to vote the other team
Okey...
Haōshoku Infusion Hybrid Kaido knocked down Gear 5 Luffy with "Kosanze Ragnaraku" and injured him with "Daiitoku Raimei Hakke" despite the damage reduction (he was previously able to deal damage to Luffy with attacks coated with Busoshoku Haki, but Gear 5 elasticity reduced these attacks AP to a non-significant level). Kaido also has a size increase of up to 1000+ metres in Flame Dragon Form, as well as an AP and Durability increase of approximately 2.5x through Kaen Daiko.
And Bigmom via "Soru Soru no Mi" can absorb her own life span and receive a 4x AP and Durability boost.
However, both Bigmom and Kaido can read their opponent's power level through Kenbunshoku Haki and this can prompting them to use their abilities.
•Bigmom can destroy her opponents' souls with her grip.
•Heat produced by Kaido's Kaen Daiko would melt objects into nothing if it came to touch it.
Additionally, both Bigmom and Kaido have Haoshoku Haki, which causes them to instantly scare their opponents, giving them convulsions, headaches; and unconsciousness via a form of sleep induction.
I would not consider the feat against these fake clones to be equivalent to the real one shot.
Looks like he just throws them away. Is there any proof that he killed or knocked them out? Also, this would be the equivalent of a single one-shot at most, since he doesn't counter to all of them at once.
Kaido can see the start of this attack seconds before and warn Bigmom about this attack, and both of them can block this attack or both can neutralize or destroy this attack before it reaches them due to their long range.
It doesn't really matter against Kaido's Thunder Bagua's speed blitz boost.
Okay, now explain how Wu do this?
What does this do? To nothing. Besides, it's not even something he did in the battle.
Dragons seem to create these portals. Is there any proof/scene of Wu creating portals?
Where exactly do they resist sleep hax?
With his future vision, Kaido already sees these portals before they open and can dodge them, so it's really useless, plus Flame Dragon form is way too big for these portals.
There is no mention of supernatural willpower here, and supernatural willpower is not even in the profile in first place.
Matchup ScriptIs there an instance where Garmadon adds the element of destruction to his spinjitzu? Even if it does, Kaido sees Garmadon doing this seconds before, so he can either hit Garmadon with his thunder bagua before Garmadon does it, or keep his distance until his Spinjitzu expires.
These resistances alone don't mean anything, context is important and given the context, definitely not.
By the way, after Wu and Garmadon's spinjitzu ends, Garmadon and Wu's speed will return to base, so Kaido can directly neutralise them with flame dragon form. Therefore, Kaido does not need to use "thunder bagua" in hybrid form again.Note
Ye it would be far betterMaybe I should've given Garms the Golden Weapons...