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I think that's just a special things Maiden's can do. Vyke and Brethal's maidens were also stated to be able to activate the Forge of the Giants.At least Demi-God level with the forge of giants, as she was able to burn down the ErdTree, and Demi-Gods like Morgott and even Leyndell Tarnished
Unknown possibly X tier or something.How should we scale Melina? She's able to be summoned against Morgott and implies she will kill the Frenzied Flame Tarnished, albeit through unknown means.
LAND OCTOPUS HERE WE COME!You can make stuff for anyone who wouldn't scale to Astel/Radahn or the Elden Beast I guess.
Then I guess I can make Adan at leastYou can make stuff for anyone who wouldn't scale to Astel/Radahn or the Elden Beast I guess.
DefinitelyWe should really create a verse page
I'm pretty sure that's what the falling star beast there scales to At least 8-B, possibly 7-C?Aye.
I still call the burial watchdogs, btw, and I think we should get a feat for bosses lesser than a full-grown Fallingstar Beast. Maybe the crater near Leyndell.
Ah shit. I guess we gottta calc that now. Is there anyway we can scale the full grown falling star beast? Can we calc the leyndell one? Hopefully it ain't that much lower.Nosir. The 8-B to 7-C feat is the Mt. Gelmir Fallingstar Beast, which is specifically an adult. It's name is "Full-Grown Fallingstar Beast" as opposed to just "Fallingstar Beast".
We already did. We need to Calc the one next to Leyndell because it's not full grown.Ah shit. I guess we gottta calc that now. Is there anyway we can calc the full grown falling star beast?
i meant the leyndell one. TypoWe already did. We need to Calc the one next to Leyndell because it's not full grown.
Well, I said some of my justifications were off. Not that my reasoning for thinking Astel destroyed the moon was off. I do certainly think he did so and I believe the evidence we have present suggests he did indeed destroy the moon when he landed in their civilization.Those in favor of the feat were Sir Ovens and Qawsedf (though Qawsedf admitted some faults with the theories that led to the feat's creation)
Yeah I think that's a good solutionThat's already done, like I said. Mt. Gelmir's crater has been calculated by Arbitrary Numbers, and as a basic bitch boss we can upscale featless but important characters to it- hence the suggestion by others to scale Non-Prime Rennala and Godrick to it (a suggestion I find reasonable). However, many dungeons contain bosses that would be lesser than the Full-Grown version, and comparable to the adolescent/child/whatever version, which does have a crater near Leyndell.
Ah shitAlso.
I do now have the staff consensus, as of a bit ago. We wrung Armorchompy's arm to get an official weigh-in. The vote is 5-2 against using Astel's feat. Those in favor of the feat were Sir Ovens and Qawsedf (though Qawsedf admitted some faults with the theories that led to the feat's creation). Those against were myself (in case that were not painfully obvious), DarkGrath, Zaratthustra, Emirp, and Armorchompy.
I'd like to move on to getting staff consensus on the other controversial feats ASAP. Namely this includes Radahn's meteors and scaling the Elden Ring to "governing the stars". Once we have this, we will have our accepted tiers.
X possibly High 4-C and X possibly 4-A.What kind of
Can we even calc Gransax? Isn't its model incomplete?X possibly High 4-C and X possibly 4-A.
The following stuff would quantify for an X imo
- KE of Gransax since it scales to demigods like Godwyn
- Starbeast crater * Radahn 643+ meteors
- Limgrave crater * Radahn 643+ meteors
- Calcing Astel's crater in the Grand Colester/Rot Temple since it tunneled that part out
It uses the same base models as ancient dragons just scaled up by a factor of 9.Isn't its model incomplete?
Leyndell drove it off and Godwyn was involved in some degree.I'm pretty sure Gransax scales to no one?
He did so during the time of Godfrey.Do we even know when he attacked the city and who defeated him?
Scan for that?Leyndell drove it off and Godwyn was involved in some degree.
The sword monument for the Dragon Wars mention Godwyn ending it and that's the war Gransax attacked Leyndell.Scan for that?