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Elden Ring Profiles
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Astel blew up a moon ig.
Radahn might have used most of his power to the sky feat, so we can't say if tanking his grav attacks or beating him would scale to that feat as we don't know if Radahn was using the same amount of power in the fight as doing that feat.
Or something like that.
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Basically my idea is the following:
- Lore wise Astel destroyed Nokstella's moon when he raised their cities to the ground. Some items make mention of the moon and how it was destroyed and became a rain of meteors upon the Earth
- The Tier 4 rating have issues in my view that precludes them from being a solid tier. However, there's plenty of evidence that backs them being valid that we can't ignore. So I was suggesting we give Radahn a "possibly High 4-C" rating for his feat and Elden Beast scaling people "possibly 4-A" for their respective star stuff
- Ranni's ending only scales when she replaces Marika as God so her thing probably shouldn't scale to anyone else
- I still have no idea what to make people below Astel
- Malenia would be "At least High 6-A" for being superior to Astel
- Prime Radahn would be "At least High 6-A, possibly High 4-C with gravity magic"
- Elden Beast would be "At least High 6-A, possibly 4-A"
The only other way I can think of getting a tier for Radahn level people is based on him overpowering Starbeasts and calcing their mountain crater, which would scale to mid-game dudes
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At least High 6-A, likely far higher, possibly 4-A is janky IMO.
Just At least High 6-A, possibly 4-A is more clean
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Yeah, its why I just changed it for the above.
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Nah **** em
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So on the matter of Astel
Do we have any idea on what the nebulae astel creates actually is?
Some lore supports it just being Illusions while some descriptions outright imply the opposite such as the stars of darkness description
Do we have any idea on what the nebulae astel creates actually is?
Some lore supports it just being Illusions while some descriptions outright imply the opposite such as the stars of darkness description
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Source for the Astel thing?
Also Radahn was passively keeping the stars up, I doubt he would be using too much of his power to keep them there.
Also even if you don't want to use Radahn for scaling, Prime Radahn fought Malenia evenly, who you fight later. Demigod scaling should make her Mid-Game level.
Also Radahn was passively keeping the stars up, I doubt he would be using too much of his power to keep them there.
Also even if you don't want to use Radahn for scaling, Prime Radahn fought Malenia evenly, who you fight later. Demigod scaling should make her Mid-Game level.
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Who's late-game level?
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Ehhhh. I don't think Malenia is mid game. She more like mid / late game at least
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people like Godfrey, maliketh, radagon, the elden beast
oh wait no thats end game
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Yeah but Godrick is like, canonically the weakest
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He is the weakest yeah, but he's evidently still somewhat relative, as he lasted long enough against Malenia to ask for mercy, and also Stormveil wasn't just steamrolled by one of his siblings. If any of the demigods was way weaker than the rest, they'd have died instantly during the shattering
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Also I would have to say he's notably weaker. His relative Godefroy was defeated by a Dragon Knight and Margitt was the main reason other Tarnished hadn't killed him yet
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Yeah considering this, I am certain Godrick is <<< the other Demigods. He was protected by Margit who was an Erdtree fanatic and it makes sense that he would attempt to halt any advance on the weakest of the Demigods.
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I guess it's just mostly who we decide to slap a "Possibly High 4-C" rating on then
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Didnt Radahn go mad via the Rot to the point where he started cannibalizing his own men?
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Yes, he ate the corpses of those on the dunes, and the corpses of those he killed, I think it's noted that's all he could think of actually, just fighting, killing and gorging himself
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I dont think he'd feel a sense of honor at that point then, if he's so bloodthirsty and insane that Eating is the only thing that comes to his head
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Yeah, but that also means he wouldn't feel a sense of holding back, when he's being jumped by like 5+ people, and needs to kill and eat them to survive
Although there's Jerren's dialogue about how he established the festival for an honorable death so who knows if he still had a sense of honor, I doubt it but still
Although there's Jerren's dialogue about how he established the festival for an honorable death so who knows if he still had a sense of honor, I doubt it but still
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Somehow this made me chuckled lel
Well we're so grateful for your help you two or otherwise we're going to stuck forever in Abyss
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Well I saw the thread and no lifed the game for the past four days so I could understand stuff for the CRT.
But for the thread if the moon thing is okay with still need to find stuff to the earlier tiers of Tarnished. The High 4-C and 4-A stuff would be mid-game and onward.
But for the thread if the moon thing is okay with still need to find stuff to the earlier tiers of Tarnished. The High 4-C and 4-A stuff would be mid-game and onward.
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What are we defining as early, mid, late and endgame
I see endgame is Maliketh through EB, which I agree with, late game seems to be Malenia, so like Haligtree and stuff, but what exactly are the cutoffs for mid and early game by this metric
I see endgame is Maliketh through EB, which I agree with, late game seems to be Malenia, so like Haligtree and stuff, but what exactly are the cutoffs for mid and early game by this metric
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I remember someone earlier on this thread, or maybe the other thread, saying that Radagin fought a prime Renalla. And prime Renalla conjured the night or something.
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Radagon fought against the Carian family and met Rennala on the battlefield yeah
Nothing explicitly says they fought but it's pretty likely, then during Rennala's phase two transition, Ranni talks about the night she conjures, and it's a realm with a moon and bunch of stars
The point of contention then becomes, is the phase two Ranni's illusion? There are a few things going against it though, namely the illusion talking to Ranni as her daughter like she's the real Rennala, talking to us when she beats us and calling it her moon, and the fact that this super strong illusion that can kill people and be used remotely was never addressed or used by Ranni ever again, or before this, in fact she doesn't comment even if we do this after meeting her, something you'd assume she'd do if you just fought an illusion she made
Nothing explicitly says they fought but it's pretty likely, then during Rennala's phase two transition, Ranni talks about the night she conjures, and it's a realm with a moon and bunch of stars
The point of contention then becomes, is the phase two Ranni's illusion? There are a few things going against it though, namely the illusion talking to Ranni as her daughter like she's the real Rennala, talking to us when she beats us and calling it her moon, and the fact that this super strong illusion that can kill people and be used remotely was never addressed or used by Ranni ever again, or before this, in fact she doesn't comment even if we do this after meeting her, something you'd assume she'd do if you just fought an illusion she made
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Remember that when we meet Rennala, Ranni was still using the moniker of Renna. She's working under the assumption we do not know she made the illusion and is trying to prop her mother up to her prime.
The Rennala we meet is too far gone and she's not even dead after we kill her in phase 2.
The Rennala we meet is too far gone and she's not even dead after we kill her in phase 2.
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Yeah but someone else on one of the two threads said the illusion is supposee to represent Renalla's prime? Before she went insane or something.
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Totally is imo. It doesn't make sense otherwise considering how much of an invalid Rennala is otherwise and how Ranni is shown to be strong enough to kill the Tarnished even as a doll.
Mostly for the thread to decide.
But as a guess my assumption would be that we treat the Tarnished as solving everything in a particular area before moving on to the boss/Legacy Dungeon.
So maybe like group Godrick to Rennala for early game, Radahn to Rykard for mid-game and Morgott to Malenia for end game
With only Dog boy on being Elden Beast level (and maybe the dragon elden lord who's name escapes me).
Prime Radahn would scale to Malenia for his non Tier 4 rating.
The thing is, even a prime Rennala could legitimately just be an illusion. The Fell Twins blackened out an entire divine tower and stopped all the light. Rennala preforming a superior version of thst feat isn't wild.
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Except we do know, because Ranni announces herself as Ranni the witch both during the cutscene, and when we meet her in Ranni's rise
I'd say Rennala not being dead is just possibly thanks to her rebirth rune
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Liurnia and Limgrave as early, Caelid, Altus and Volcano Manor as mid, then Leyndell through Fire Giant with the side areas as late game, with Maliketh, Placidusax, Godfrey and Radagon/EB as endgame, I see
So I assume in this case we'd just assume the Tarnished didn't access Mohgwyn via Varre's quest while in Liurnia, and put Mohgwyn as lategame too?
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Rennala not being dead is simply because she's no danger to us, she's clearly alive after phase 1 and since Ranni's illusion drops the rune, there's no need to kill her
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The one who Marika gave destined death. I don't feel like butchering the spelling of his name atm.
Well in my view the Tarnished getting there and fighting Mohg are two different things. Since you'll just be obliterated at such an early level if you try to go through there with Varre's quest.
Since Mohg is Morgott's twin and they seem to split blocking the Three Fingers 50/50 I'd say it would be better to just scale Mohg to Morgott.
Yeah. Though as a warning I may be like, subconsciously splitting based on the wiki pre-build level benchmarks and that may not be fully correct.
But in my view it'll cover about everything: We can scale Radahn to Rykard with the starbeast crater, find something to scale Rennala and Godrick to, and Morgott onwards scales to Astel.
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Ah, Maliketh
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