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And possibly/likely soul destructionHe should still get deconstruction though
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And possibly/likely soul destructionHe should still get deconstruction though
I thought abt it too , it should just be EE right off the bat if I'm being Honest, no reason to assume multiple versions exist in the mangaWhy are we assuming Goku's version of Hakai doesn't have EE? Because Beerus has shown a different version of Hakai? It sure is a weird assumption to make.
He did it on the rock that was crushing MoroGoku has never used hakai in mui so where is that statement coming from?
Because he failed it.Why are we assuming Goku's version of Hakai doesn't have EE? Because Beerus has shown a different version of Hakai? It sure is a weird assumption to make.
he messed up as in he let zamasu get away , why u assuming he messed up the technique itslefBecause he failed it.
that's exlactly why i said this lolYup
btw still baffled at how he tried to "copy" beerus despite never seeing it beforehand , like not even an explanation or ntg , they just gonna leave us like this
Because he fail
Let's just put possibly for the EE or whateverhe messed up as in he let zamasu get away , why u assuming he messed up the technique itslef
hence the possibly/likely EEHonestly I feel you can come up with a few different outcomes from him saying he messed up.
Yeah I agree with this.hence the possibly/likely EE
could've sworn he lready had it , anyway we should contact some staff to look at thisYeah I agree with this.
Now I gotta get Reactive Evolution accepted for Goku
He doesn't say he failed to copy the technique. We literally see him use it the same way Gods of Destruction use it. Other interpretations (e.g. Goku saying he messed up due to Zamasu grabbing Mai before he could fully erase Zamasu) are a lot more consistent within the story.Because he failed it.
i asked 2 Mods , now we waitWhom exactly
thank you for responding , i also think that just giving him EE plain and simple is the best course of action , but a "possibly" works tooAs I said, I think it's reasonable to give Goku EE and all stuff related to that form of hakai, including soul destruction and deconstruction/transmutation into dust or whatever. And imho, it not being able to kill Zamasu is an immortality-regen feat, more than a weakness of the technique. And the meaning of "messed up" has so many interpretations that you can't take anything reliable out of it. If you want to stay safe just place a possibly on EE and Soul Erasure, even though I'd put it plain and simple, as the technique is the same, just more slow, and nothing really contradicts it having the same effects.
Also, I don't really know how to classify Goku performing the hakai without seeing it before, given the unique effect it has, different from the usual ki stuff. You can label it as intelligence or power mimicry feat, or just nothing, I just don't think it's enough to give him reactive evolution, since that is a different power (Currently, Goku has reactive power level, which is different)
no , it'll stay the sameSo of goku's hakai gets added, will it effect zamasu's regen?
I see thanks for clearing it upno , it'll stay the same
no problemI see thanks for clearing it up
The Reactive Evolution is for a different feat. This oneAs I said, I think it's reasonable to give Goku EE and all stuff related to that form of hakai, including soul destruction and deconstruction/transmutation into dust or whatever. And imho, it not being able to kill Zamasu is an immortality-regen feat, more than a weakness of the technique. And the meaning of "messed up" has so many interpretations that you can't take anything reliable out of it. If you want to stay safe just place a possibly on EE and Soul Erasure, even though I'd put it plain and simple, as the technique is the same, just more slow, and nothing really contradicts it having the same effects.
Also, I don't really know how to classify Goku performing the hakai without seeing it before, given the unique effect it has, different from the usual ki stuff. You can label it as intelligence or power mimicry feat, or just nothing, I just don't think it's enough to give him reactive evolution, since that is a different power (Currently, Goku has reactive power level, which is different)
Where did it say anything about ki rising up? The word "body" is used. Also as we know now Ultra instinct gives you many abilities.At the time it was considered another application of Instinctive Reaction, because Goku's body grows sturdies by rising up ki automatically, rather than evolving to become more durable. The first also makes sense, as it's an automatic counter against sneak attacks, avoiding shit like getting injuried because Goku has his ki and/or guard down.
Because beerus himself stated that hakai can't erase immortal beings so it's more so a feat for zamasu's regen. And him saying he messed it up can be taken in various waysWait why are we adding the EE to Goku? His version both reduced Zamas to dust rather than destroying it and according to Goku himself its not comparable to the real deal. (And considering they were talking about its power, its hard to believe Goku is talking about only half hitting.)
for the 10th time , goku never stated that his version isn't comparable to the real deal , where do you ppl come up with these interpretation ?? also plz read the thread beccause we pretty much went over everythingWait why are we adding the EE to Goku? His version both reduced Zamas to dust rather than destroying it and according to Goku himself its not comparable to the real deal. (And considering they were talking about its power, its hard to believe Goku is talking about only half hitting.)