Edens Zero: Witch's Protection Matrix

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

I completely forgot about this TBH, but yeah, we need to discuss Witch's Protection Matrix Durability

We know that Witch's Protection Matrix completely blocked the explosion of 20,000 Antimatter Bombs. We also know that this took her life as a result. Now just one of these bombs has enough power to destroy an entire planet. Now since the explosion that Witched blocked came from 20,000 of these Planet level blasts. Bare minimum she should be able to scale to 1 of these bombs, but considering these bombs were also notably a huge threat to Oracion Seis Galactica Members, she in conclusion she scale to 5-A with her Protection Matrix

So that's my suggestion, but I certainly want more opinions on this

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Following. Not sure which to go with tbh.

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

I would think it would be higher for the rating but whatever I agree

 

[Theendzero13]

Meh it is fine i agree

 

[TheForgottenKing]

I think this is fine

 

[Nierre]

WITCHHHHHHH

 

[Eseseso]

RIP My Waifu



Agree with OP

 

[BlackeJan]

I mean she should get a “likely” considering it was getting destroyed in the process

 

[Nerd1435]

I agree, and there's no need for likely.

 

[SamanPatou]

I agree that a likely isn't needed, the fact that she lost her life in the process is something to be listed a weakness, but it doesn't change the fact that her shield blocked the blast.

Also, remember to include the scans where members of the oracion seis galactica are visibly threatened by the bombs.

 

[Nerd1435]

She didn't sacrifice her life to employ that shield tho, she employed that shield without any temporary amps.

It's just her Max power shield, it eventually broke after she shielded Edens Zero from most of the blast and then turned to dust either due to the physical toll or remnant energy of the blast.
She could've "lived" had she stopped it right before the end, like seen when everyone told her to come back and that she can't take it anymore after she already shielded the ship for alot of time.

 

[SamanPatou]

Yeah, that's why the shield scales without troubles.

The weakness is that she can't hold on the shield for long when pressured by such force.

 

[Nerd1435]

Yeah, that's why the shield scales without troubles.

The weakness is that she can't hold on the shield for long when pressured by such force.

As much as I hate it, watch Wizard make fun of his counterpart for dying to this explosion (I hope that at the back of my mind too)

 

[Damage3245]

Bare minimum she should be able to scale to 1 of these bombs

Why?

 

[Nerd1435]

Her shield at max output regardless at least scales to the likes of OSG tho

They recognized it's power and fled from the scene, Shura was also planning to kill Ziggy and Nero with the bombs. He should be fairly knowledgeable on their power too, where his estimation went wrong is that his father had an ether gear which was unknown even to Ziggy.

 

[Damage3245]

Her shield at max output regardless at least scales to the likes of OSG tho

They recognized it's power and fled from the scene, Shura was also planning to kill Ziggy and Nero with the bombs. He should be fairly knowledgeable on their power too, where his estimation went wrong is that his father had an ether gear which was unknown even to Ziggy.

They would have been a lot closer to the explosion than Witch was when she defended the Edens Zero.

 

[Nerd1435]

They would have been a lot closer to the explosion than Witch was when she defended the Edens Zero.

Edens Zero was very close to the Planet as well, you can see it from how big the Planet looks, it stopped right above Nero 66 airspace, and in fact the cross sectional area of witch's shield is far greater than their surface area

 

[Damage3245]

Edens Zero was very close to the Planet as well, you can see it from how big the Planet looks, it stopped right above Nero 66 airspace, and in fact the cross sectional area of witch's shield is far greater than their surface area

So it should be possible to calc the durability then?

 

[Nerd1435]

So it should be possible to calc the durability then?

Hermit stated it will obliterate the entire sector and possibly neighboring Planets as well. It also has to get past the water present throughout the cosmos.

Yes it is possible to calc witch shield durability from what's known but that still won't be a set in stone result, if in case it turns out to be below where Xenolith's feat scales to (which is far below the likes of Ziggy, Nero, Justice), then we know it's pretty much useless since we can scale her shield above these guys' durability anyway

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

If it is an explosion of antimatter wouldn't it be an damage that ignore conventional durability?

 

[Nerd1435]

Matter-Antimatter interaction ignores durability but not the energy released from that interaction

The planet has enough matter to interact fully with the antimatter bombs that were buried underneath to release energy instead of the antimatter interacting with people on it or in the space above

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

But why would it be the same energy to destroy a planet?

 

[Nerd1435]

But why would it be the same energy to destroy a planet?

I didn't get it, do you mean why would energy from a matter-antimatter interaction due to a AM-Bomb destroy a Planet?

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

The question is how does a bomb that is naturally anti-matter have a calculable AP

 

[Nerd1435]

The question is how does a bomb that is naturally anti-matter have a calculable AP

Why would it not? It's AP is the energy it releases upon interacting with the matter around it. Energy released due to a single antimatter bomb is strong enough to destroy the Planet Nero 66 (direct statement)

That energy but from 20K such bombs is what's destroying planets and killing people and that energy is what Witch shielded the Edens Zero against

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Why would it not? It's AP is the energy it releases upon interacting with the matter around it. Energy released due to a single antimatter bomb is strong enough to destroy the Planet Nero 66 (direct statement)

I understand that energy is needed for the bomb to work. What I want to understand is how an antimatter explosion that works more like a hax has the same amount of destructive potency as destroying a planet with brute power

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

What I want to understand is how an antimatter explosion that works more like a hax has the same amount of destructive potency as destroying a planet with brute power

There's nothing hax about explosions.
Explosion happens after anti-matter and matter react. Said energy output was stated capable of destroying planet.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

I would have sworn anti matter was considered hax on the site

nvm then

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

I would have sworn anti materia was considered hax on the site

nvm then

Anti Matter is haxlike if it interacts with matter.
Explosions after said interaction is energy output.

 

[BlackeJan]

Yeah, that's why the shield scales without troubles.

The weakness is that she can't hold on the shield for long when pressured by such force.

Could had sworn if something like that doesn't hold then they shouldn't get a straight tier from it. Thats why I said a Likely should be used. It would had been different if that shield tanked the blast but it lost to an explosion

EDIT: is the 5-A baseline or no?

 

[CloverDragon03]

The 5-A comes from the Oracion Seis Interstellar, which isn't baseline.

It may be possible to just calc the shield's durability though

 

[CloverDragon03]

I do say this, but I also think it's worth noting that Shura stated the bombs would kill Ziggy and Nero, and since the Oracion Seis Interstellar members were noticeably threatened by the bombs, I think 5-A should be fine regardless.

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Bump

 

[Damage3245]

I'd like to see a calc be made finding the durability of Witch's shield. I can try making one this weekend if nobody else is interested.

 

[Nerd1435]

I agree with her Maximum Output Protect Matrix scaling to 5A.

Finding it by inverse square method will give a lower result than that (unless it's considered to be an omnidirectional blast destroying neighboring planet by vaporizing the water present in between, in which case it'll just be a bit higher into 5A than Xenolith calc)

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

I'd like to see a calc be made finding the durability of Witch's shield. I can try making one this weekend if nobody else is interested.

The blast is a threat to the Oracion Seis and Ziggy, it would scale to 5-A regardless

 

[Damage3245]

The blast is a threat to the Oracion Seis and Ziggy, it would scale to 5-A regardless

Sure, the blast would but that doesn't get us the durability of the shields.

 

[Nerd1435]

Her shield saved Edens Zero from that blast. It's of course more durable than OSG/I and Ziggy due to that

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Sure, the blast would but that doesn't get us the durability of the shields.

Well the Surface Area of the shield is greater than the Surface Area of the Oracion Seis individuals

So the shield would still be 5-A

 

[Damage3245]

Well the Surface Area of the shield is greater than the Surface Area of the Oracion Seis individuals

So the shield would still be 5-A

But the shield in question is at a much further distance than the Oracion Seis individuals you're talking about. So a simple 1-to-1 comparison doesn't work.