Eden's Zero Discussion Thread

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

So Shiki can fire Gravity as projectiles, interesting, also I expect him to make a black hole one day, and gravity in a meteor

 

[Phoenix821]

Shiki is going to pull down a meteor at some point, it's pretty much guaranteed.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

This is a modern battle/adventure manga....I expect a meteor at this point. It's basically a law at this point...

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Let's see, Naruto, Bleach, One Piece, Seven Deadly Sins, and Fairy Tail have summoned Meteors, so yeah it's gonna happen eventually

 

[Captain_Torch]

What if Shiki goes the extra mile and pulles planets instead of meteors? That would be pretty cool

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Like Thanos

 

[Captain_Torch]

Thanos vs Shiki incoming in a few years


Also, I'm interested in how Shiki's "Gravity Ball" works. Does it ignore durability(probably not) or does it simply create a huge gravitation field?

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

That's what I am wondering. It looked pretty interesting. We gotta wait til he uses it again in a real serious battle tho.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

inb4 conceptual gravity manip

 

[AppleLord]

How can Shiki's feats work when he reduces the mass of an object?

A meteor > nope Shiki made it weightless.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

maybe it's a meteor made of a heavy material that even when reduced is still really heavy

 

[Captain_Torch]

Shiki would have no reason to summon a weightless meteor though, since that would do jack shit and would be useless as an attack.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Why would he summon a weightless meteor, that's just nonsensical. Why are we talking about a feat that hasn't happened and likely won't happen (if it does) for awhile.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

I think Apple meant him punching a meteor someone else summoned

 

[AppleLord]

I mean stop a meteor by making it weightless that's hax not AP.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Who said anything about "stopping" a meteor? We said "summon" a meteor.

 

[AppleLord]

I asked a question. :/

 

[TriforcePower1]

What if Shiki goes the extra mile and pulles planets instead of meteors? That would be pretty cool

Or a moon. Eden's Zero: Majora's Mask edition ovo.

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Added a gallery of Shiki's attacks on his page

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Anyone calc any of the speed feats?

 

[Captain_Torch]

I tried, but most of them were either unquantifiable or had shitty results.

The feat where the foot brothers deflected bullets resulted just in "superhuman" speed(I didn't post the calc), and Shiki travelling to the mecha in a few seconds/minutes had unquantifiable time/distance.

Then there's the missile dodging feat, but it also has no clear panels to scale from


I guess I could try calcing the bullet dodging feat from when they just arrived at Blue Garden. But I doubt it would yield anything too impressive, despite it being super casual

 

[AppleLord]

Anyone calc any of the speed feats?

Supersonic (Faster than Bullets and Rockets)

 

[Damage3245]

> Should be able to do as much damage as he can take

While I can understand scaling durability to AP / Striking Strength, I don't think it makes a lot of sense to scale a character's AP / Striking Strength from their durability.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

I mean...there is a thing called Stone Walls.

 

[Damage3245]

So you're agreeing with me?

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Yes.

Also;

Striking Strength = Durability. Your durability scales to your Striking Strength.

Durability =/= Striking Strength. Your Striking Strength does not scale to your AP.

For future reference. But yeah, that reasoning doesn't fly.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Now I forget. Did he ever hurt Shiki?

 

[Captain_Torch]

No, and he got oneshotted by Shiki. I honestly disagree with scaling both his dura and DC to shiki. Surviving an attack =/= tanking an attack

 

[KaiserReinhardt]

The king should only scale to the 8-A durability and not the attack potency, since he has never shown any attack on the level of shiki.

He should be like happy from fairy tail, great durability, but weak attack potency unless he has shown otherwise.

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Eden's Zero Volume 1 Cover

 

[KaiserReinhardt]

Looks like our boy weisz got a ether gear. He literaly hacked the flying ship and transformed it into a faster one. Spoiler scans

 

[HST_Master]

So Weisz has technological manip? neet

 

[KaiserReinhardt]

I know right. In a age were robots and technology is everything, he got a pretty good ability i would say.

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Chapter is Out in English: http://*****************/read-online/Edens-Zero-chapter-11.html

Also with this chapter we might already have More Tier 5 entities

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Eating time isn't tier 5, but it seems heavily implied that the Time Eater is bigger than a Planet by size so Tier 5 is still possible.

And, oh look, Erza is here now.

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

That's what I mean, these Time Eaters are supposedly many times larger than Planets

 

[KaiserReinhardt]

Time eater, things are getting interessting. It's also Tier 5 from sheer size alone, it probably has abilities related to time manipulation.

Machina maker, i'm starting to like this ether gear. Also erza 2.0 is here, lets see whats her deal with shiki is about.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Looking forward to Elcy. It will take a lot to replace Erza.

 

[TriforcePower1]

Btw, if the guy is capable of destroying (not "eating", destroy) the timeline of planets that would make him High 3-A... assuming it doesn't get considered an outlier.

Tier 5 via size is still impressive enough.

 

[KaiserReinhardt]

The after effect of him eating a planets time is that it becomes it's own timeline. That's why we have 2 weisz and both of them are real.