EarthBound: Equipment stuff

[StrymULTRA]

Alright, there are new things which I want to point out.

Optional Equiment becomes Standard

In this thread I noticed that on the verse's profiles the Equipment of the EarthBound verse is listed as both Standard and Optional, making it confusing on the profiles.

However, this thread is coming to make those equiment standard, as some of these are key to the story:

• To defeat Master Belch, it's necessary to use the Jar of Fly Honey (in this video it's shown being used at 16:30, then at 16:55 it's shown to remain in the equipment) as said even in the Official Guide, meaning that canonically he is defeated in this way.
• To deal with Mr. Carpainter, it's mandatory to have the Franklin Badge, as otherwise he sends you back outside of the building, thus cannot progress with the story.
• Ness and Paula were locked in an underground prison at Threed due to the door being locked. Jeff obtains the Bad Key Machine and later on uses it to unlock the door which trapped Ness and Paula.
• Eraser Eraser and Pencil Eraser were mandatory to use to progress in Mother 2, otherwise it was not possible to go through the story.
• Lucas and its party have to use the Waters of Time, the Waters of Time, in order to enter a temple, otherwise they wouldn't be able to.
• The Franklin Badge was the reason why Mother 3 got an ending in the first place.

And most of these items can later on be dropped, like most of the other items like healing or other equippable items.

P&A changes

Some of the things which I made when typing the Equipment was wrong.

Light Manipulation and Status Effect Inducement (The Toothbrush makes the user's teeth so shiny that the opponent is scared to the point they can't move)

This is more Fear Manipulation than Status Effect. Should apply to all of Mother 2 playable party.

Healing (Through Food and Condiments. Medicines can also heal from status effects such as poison, nausea, colds, sunstroke, falling asleep, uncontrollable crying, and feeling strange, paralysis or diamondization)

This should also be Type 3 Purification. This should be applied to Ness, Poo, Lucas, Kumatora, Ninten and Ana as all of them can learn PSI Healing.

Air Manipulation (Attack Attractor causes one to stink, making them the target of all attacks)

That is more Perception Manipulation

Edit: It's actually Fragrance Manipulation, legit didn't know about this new power.

Even more P&A additions

Some new P&A can also be added to the Mother 2 dudes.

Light Manipulation through Hawk Eye (as seen here)

Jeff can get a Limited Technology Manipulation as the Bad Key Machine allows him to unlock every kind of door which needs a physical key.

And that's all.

 

[ShionAH]

Alright, there are new things which I want to point out.

Optional Equiment becomes Standard

In this thread I noticed that on the verse's profiles the Equipment of the EarthBound verse is listed as both Standard and Optional, making it confusing on the profiles.

However, this thread is coming to make those equiment standard, as some of these are key to the story:

• To defeat Master Belch, it's necessary to use the Jar of Fly Honey (in this video it's shown being used at 16:30, then at 16:55 it's shown to remain in the equipment) as said even in the Official Guide, meaning that canonically he is defeated in this way.
• To deal with Mr. Carpainter, it's mandatory to have the Franklin Badge, as otherwise he sends you back outside of the building, thus cannot progress with the story.
• Ness and Paula were locked in an underground prison at Threed due to the door being locked. Jeff obtains the Bad Key Machine and later on uses it to unlock the door which trapped Ness and Paula.
• Eraser Eraser and Pencil Eraser were mandatory to use to progress in Mother 2, otherwise it was not possible to go through the story.
• Lucas and its party have to use the Waters of Time, the Waters of Time, in order to enter a temple, otherwise they wouldn't be able to.
• The Franklin Badge was the reason why Mother 3 got an ending in the first place.

And most of these items can later on be dropped, like most of the other items like healing or other equippable items.

This seems fine but gonna wait

P&A changes

Some of the things which I made when typing the Equipment was wrong.

Light Manipulation and Status Effect Inducement (The Toothbrush makes the user's teeth so shiny that the opponent is scared to the point they can't move)

This is more Fear Manipulation than Status Effect. Should apply to all of Mother 2 playable party.

This makes sense

Healing (Through Food and Condiments. Medicines can also heal from status effects such as poison, nausea, colds, sunstroke, falling asleep, uncontrollable crying, and feeling strange, paralysis or diamondization)

This should also be Type 3 Purification. This should be applied to Ness, Poo, Lucas, Kumatora, Ninten and Ana as all of them can learn PSI Healing.

Yeah makes sense

Air Manipulation (Attack Attractor causes one to stink, making them the target of all attacks)

That is more Perception Manipulation

Isnt that more of Fragrance Manipulation

Even more P&A changes

Some new P&A can also be added to the Mother 2 dudes.

Light Manipulation through Hawk Eye (as seen here)

Sure

Jeff can get a Limited Technology Manipulation as the Bad Key Machine allows him to unlock every kind of door which needs a physical key.

I remember there was a hax for this but I forgor

 

[StrymULTRA]

Isnt that more of Fragrance Manipulation

This is legit new to me. Aight changing it.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Agreed, seems pretty fine. All pretty straightforward too.

 

[Armorchompy]

Alright, there are new things which I want to point out.

Optional Equiment becomes Standard

In this thread I noticed that on the verse's profiles the Equipment of the EarthBound verse is listed as both Standard and Optional, making it confusing on the profiles.

However, this thread is coming to make those equiment standard, as some of these are key to the story:

• To defeat Master Belch, it's necessary to use the Jar of Fly Honey (in this video it's shown being used at 16:30, then at 16:55 it's shown to remain in the equipment) as said even in the Official Guide, meaning that canonically he is defeated in this way.
• To deal with Mr. Carpainter, it's mandatory to have the Franklin Badge, as otherwise he sends you back outside of the building, thus cannot progress with the story.
• Ness and Paula were locked in an underground prison at Threed due to the door being locked. Jeff obtains the Bad Key Machine and later on uses it to unlock the door which trapped Ness and Paula.
• Eraser Eraser and Pencil Eraser were mandatory to use to progress in Mother 2, otherwise it was not possible to go through the story.
• Lucas and its party have to use the Waters of Time, the Waters of Time, in order to enter a temple, otherwise they wouldn't be able to.
• The Franklin Badge was the reason why Mother 3 got an ending in the first place.

And most of these items can later on be dropped, like most of the other items like healing or other equippable items.

It can't all be standard at once, given there's an equipment limit. Optional means things you may not always have on your person, which I think fits here.

P&A changes

Some of the things which I made when typing the Equipment was wrong.

Light Manipulation and Status Effect Inducement (The Toothbrush makes the user's teeth so shiny that the opponent is scared to the point they can't move)

This is more Fear Manipulation than Status Effect. Should apply to all of Mother 2 playable party.

I dunno if it's actual fear, I guess it does influct status so it's fine

Healing (Through Food and Condiments. Medicines can also heal from status effects such as poison, nausea, colds, sunstroke, falling asleep, uncontrollable crying, and feeling strange, paralysis or diamondization)

This should also be Type 3 Purification. This should be applied to Ness, Poo, Lucas, Kumatora, Ninten and Ana as all of them can learn PSI Healing.

Air Manipulation (Attack Attractor causes one to stink, making them the target of all attacks)

That is more Perception Manipulation

Edit: It's actually Fragrance Manipulation, legit didn't know about this new power.

all good

Even more P&A additions

Some new P&A can also be added to the Mother 2 dudes.

Light Manipulation through Hawk Eye (as seen here)

Jeff can get a Limited Technology Manipulation as the Bad Key Machine allows him to unlock every kind of door which needs a physical key.

seems good

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

It can't all be standard at once, given there's an equipment limit. Optional means things you may not always have on your person, which I think fits here.

I see now. The equipment page even mentions this:

If a character lacks a canonical set of equipment, their profile should make note of this. Examples of such characters would be player customizable RPG characters such as Chosen Undead, profiles detailing a type of being as opposed to an individual character like that of the Adeptus Astartes. Such characters should have their items all listed as optional, and people who wish to use them in versus threads should preferably specify what items shall be made available to them.

 

[StrymULTRA]

It can't all be standard at once, given there's an equipment limit.

Well... what would be Standard here then?

Key Items are definitely standard anyways, as they're literally plot-reliant so what about healing stuff? Given that is the literal minimum they should get.

 

[StrymULTRA]

I dunno if it's actual fear, I guess it does influct status so it's fine

Well, it inflicts also a solidified state, so I suppose it's both Fear and Status then?

 

[Armorchompy]

Well... what would be Standard here then?

Nothing in particular, since they can store anything. You can maybe note in Standard Equipment something like "likely a great amount of their Optional Equipment" and maybe elaborate that some items are plot-relevant, but that doesn't mean they can't get rid of them afterwards.

Well, it inflicts also a solidified state, so I suppose it's both Fear and Status then?

I think that's supposed to be them being frozen in fear

 

[StrymULTRA]

Nothing in particular, since they can store anything. You can maybe note in Standard Equipment something like "likely a great amount of their Optional Equipment" and maybe elaborate that some items are plot-relevant, but that doesn't mean they can't get rid of them afterwards.

I suppose so. Frisk has all of their things as Optional for this reason.

 

[StrymULTRA]

I see now. The equipment page even mentions this:

The Chosen Undead has his stuff as standard tho lmfao.

CRT for him then?

Though, Ness, Paula and Jeff do have Baseball Bats, Frying Pans and Guns as canon weapons (you can see Jeff holding a gun in the artwork)

 

[Armorchompy]

The Chosen Undead has his stuff as standard tho lmfao.

we don't really have set standards, you can probably find a fuckton of profiles that don't abide by that, i'm not gonna make revisions for all of them lol

Though, Ness, Paula and Jeff do have Baseball Bats, Frying Pans and Guns as canon weapons (you can see Jeff holding a gun in the artwork)

I mean, I guess you can probably assume that they'd be carrying one set of equipment at all times, but that'd vary throughout the game.

 

[StrymULTRA]

I mean, I guess you can probably assume that they'd be carrying one set of equipment at all times, but that'd vary throughout the game.

For Ness I guess it'll vary between Baseball Bats and Yo-Yos then, with him being biased towards the former.

 

[Armorchompy]

yep, slingshot every once in a while too iirc

 

[StrymULTRA]

yep, slingshot every once in a while too iirc

Funny how there's already a full tabber section for Equipment.

I'll just make the weapons Standard (for Ness specifing that he prefers Baseball Bats over the other types) and the rest Optional then, while also removing stuff they don't have (for example Ness for some reason has Jeff-only equipment on the page lol).

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Looks good with Armor's notes to take into mind.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Applied everything to the pages. This can be closed.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Closing