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[How Do Time Machines Work? Asking an Expert about Time Travel in Dragon Ball] | DRAGON BALL OFFICIAL SITE
Around the beginning of Dragon Ball's Cell arc, a mysterious young man appears ben.dragon-ball-official.com
What now?
okay, nice of you to mention thatNVM, someone already used that link before me. My bad.
started the endless deniali don't see how does that proves anything tbh, time travel = new timeline being made, i don't see how does that prove anything other than what we already know about how time travel works in db
could mark the Anti and my God?NVM, someone already used that link before me. My bad.
Is anyone gonna respond to this or??Something I want to say is if you’re gonna talk about toei cosmology do that in a seperate CRT and not this one
Also the Infinite universe has 1 staff agree and 1 staff disagree so far
If this gets rejected then it’ll just make the argument for infinite universe not being infinite less unlikely to happen again as there’s counters to this this topic is important since a cosmology blog is being made so there’s no point in saying stop doing it and just disprove it
Can someone name the contradictions as well? And if someone mentions the edge of the universe again https://vsbattles.com/threads/dragonball-cosmology-revision-part-3.150265/post-5534537
Not necessarily case of the information being contradictory, but of the information lacking any grounds in the original series, which, by the Wiki's standards, means the information is as good as useless.Can someone name the contradictions as well?
[How Do Time Machines Work? Asking an Expert about Time Travel in Dragon Ball] | DRAGON BALL OFFICIAL SITE
Around the beginning of Dragon Ball's Cell arc, a mysterious young man appears ben.dragon-ball-official.com
What now?
Can you take a look?Yes, that seems reasonable.
Can each side here do so in a comprehensive, but well-structured and easy to understand manner please?
Can you check it out?To reiterate, please cite your sources if you can. We need to know where these scans come from.
This isn't relevant, Luffy.Can you take a look?
Can you check it out?
Worst of all, it's talking about the verse and how the time machine works, and everything, also about the Universe being infinite, so it's valid! As long as it's from an official source.This isn't relevant, Luffy.
We only scrap them if they contradict the source material.We don't scrap guidebooks because of no mention of them in the source material. Sorry, but whoever told you that is plain wrong.
why do you every time someone says anything you don't like you start being defensive and accusatory? that is very childishstarted the endless denial
Exactly.We only scrap them if they contradict the source material.
how is that talking about the universe being infinite at all? it is just explaining how time travel works in db, which is no different than how we already treat it alreadyWorst of all, it's talking about the verse and how the time machine works, and everything, also about the Universe being infinite, so it's valid! As long as it's from an official source.
Yakon’s planet is a planet of darkness where there’s no light but either way there’s no contradictions and even so if it’s not contradicted it doenst make it uselessNot necessarily case of the information being contradictory, but of the information lacking any grounds in the original series, which, by the Wiki's standards, means the information is as good as useless.
We don't scrap guidebooks because of no mention of them in the source material. Sorry, but whoever told you that is plain wrong.
I see calculation members when I see staff that are online are calculation members staff?We only scrap them if they contradict the source material.
That stuff talks about alternate timelines. It's got nothing to do with the universe.Worst of all, it's talking about the verse and how the time machine works, and everything, also about the Universe being infinite, so it's valid! As long as it's from an official source.
Yakon's planet is apparently an Anime only thing. So it's not usable here.Yakon’s planet is a planet of darkness where there’s no light but either way there’s no contradictions and even so if it’s not contradicted it doenst make it useless
It's also mentioned in the manga, broYakon's planet is apparently an Anime only thing. So it's not usable here.
Yakon’s planet still exists in the manga it just doesn’t have the same statement of being on the far side of the universe and in the daizenshuu is described as being dark due to the lack of starsYakon's planet is apparently an Anime only thing. So it's not usable here.
Then i personally don't see any contradictionYakon’s planet still exists in the manga it just doesn’t have the same statement of being on the far side of the universe and in the daizenshuu is described as being dark due to the lack of stars
Alright so we’ve discussed there’s no contradictions correct? So what other argument is there since the universe having an edge has been discussed and the opposition has s agreed there’s no contradictionsSomething I want to say is if you’re gonna talk about toei cosmology do that in a seperate CRT and not this one
Also the Infinite universe has 1 staff agree and 1 staff disagree so far
If this gets rejected then it’ll just make the argument for infinite universe not being infinite less unlikely to happen again as there’s counters to this this topic is important since a cosmology blog is being made so there’s no point in saying stop doing it and just disprove it
Can someone name the contradictions as well? And if someone mentions the edge of the universe again https://vsbattles.com/threads/dragonball-cosmology-revision-part-3.150265/post-5534537
then it isn't useful in proving that there is an infinite darkness around an observable light universeYakon’s planet still exists in the manga it just doesn’t have the same statement of being on the far side of the universe and in the daizenshuu is described as being dark due to the lack of stars
Alright so we’ve discussed there’s no contradictions correct?
summary of my arguments here:
The counter argument being used for the universe having an edge is that it is the edge of the "observable/light part" of the universe and that after that there is an infinite darkness that is infinite in size, but when we see the universe from an outside perspective we see no greater darkness surrounding a light part of it, which would disqualify this said darkness from even being a thing at all, some brought up how we don't see the other dimensions of the macrocosm, but since they are other dimensions they would be in other planes of existance and wouldn't be seeable from an outside perspective, plus the model used to say that they would be seeable is never used in the dbz manga and dbs anime so the series depiction takes precedence over it anyway, plus the statement itself never specified that it is talking about any observable universe in place of the entire universe, and we have no reason to believe that it is talking about an specific part of it
the oposition has not agreed on it tho?So what other argument is there since the universe having an edge has been discussed and the opposition has s agreed there’s no contradictions
Well it’s a planet of darkness where there’s no stars but either way the guides aren’t contradicting the series and unless they do that’s when they’re scrappedthen it isn't useful in proving that there is an infinite darkness around an observable light universe
Not necessarily case of the information being contradictory, but of the information lacking any grounds in the original series, which, by the Wiki's standards, means the information is as good as useless.
If you don’t agree you may name the contradictionthe oposition has not agreed on it tho?
You can be carefree, the only contradiction in the Universe being infinite is the fact that they claim that the Universe has only four Galaxies, the rest is not even an argument, AKM when it was in the review it had a bad interpretation and caused the Galaxies business, that's all you need to disprove, the rest doesn't matter.Well it’s a planet of darkness where there’s no stars but either way the guides aren’t contradicting the series and unless they do that’s when they’re scrapped
If you don’t agree you may name the contradiction
4 galaxies which are a denomination used by the godsYou can be carefree, the only contradiction in the Universe being infinite is the fact that they claim that the Universe has only four Galaxies, the rest is not even an argument, AKM when it was in the review it had a bad interpretation and caused the Galaxies business, that's all you need to disprove, the rest doesn't matter.
That wasn’t a contradiction it’s just a denomination used by the gods referring to sections or quadrants of the universe which are infinitely expanding and the space beyond this is an infinite darkness and referred to as infinitely expansive universe but yeah I’m not worried I would love to see any contradictions and actual arguments that haven’t been refuted as things like this just make the argument better and strongerYou can be carefree, the only contradiction in the Universe being infinite is the fact that they claim that the Universe has only four Galaxies, the rest is not even an argument, AKM when it was in the review it had a bad interpretation and caused the Galaxies business, that's all you need to disprove, the rest doesn't matter.
Space is infinite beyond the stars and earth is shown at the edge of a galactic region. Still consistent.I think the only point that may cause contention is the Bulma one.
Good, this is the only contradiction they use to say that the universe is not infinite, I'm even shocked by it, lol4 galaxies which are a denomination used by the gods
That wasn’t a contradiction it’s just a denomination used by the gods referring to sections or quadrants of the universe which are infinitely expanding and the space beyond this is an infinite darkness and referred to as infinitely expansive universe but yeah I’m not worried I would love to see any contradictions and actual arguments that haven’t been refuted as things like this just make the argument better and stronger
The “edge of the universe” quote?I think the only point that may cause contention is the Bulma one.
Yeah, the one that mentions the edge and center.The “edge of the universe” quote?
The “edge of the universe” quote?
Yeah, the one that mentions the edge and center.
Space is infinite beyond the stars and earth is shown at the edge of a galactic region. Still consistent.
She straight says that the universe has an edge tho, this is a contradiction, plus the supposed "infinite" darkness not being there when we see the universe from outsideSpace is infinite beyond the stars and earth is shown at the edge of a galactic region. Still consistent.
Post in thread 'Dragonball Cosmology Revision: Part 3'She straight says that the universe has an edge tho, this is a contradiction, plus the supposed "infinite" darkness not being there when we see the universe from outside
Now me personally. That shit goofy dawg.Yeah, the one that mentions the edge and center.
Now me personally. That shit goofy dawg.
Thats like saying if you reach the end of an infinite corridor it aint infinite. That shit alone would contradict infinite speed. Anything can have an edge.
Space is infinite beyond the stars and earth is shown at the edge of a galactic region. Still consistent.
Why are you hung up on a stylistic depiction of the universe that only shows a singular galaxy? That alone should indicate it's not exactly 1:1 or a faithful representation of its full scale.She straight says that the universe has an edge tho, this is a contradiction, plus the supposed "infinite" darkness not being there when we see the universe from outside