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Dragonball Cosmology Revision: Part 3

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Thank you, Toshifumi Futamase; Professor of Astrophysics & Meteorology at Kyoto Sangyo University's Faculty of Science, Specialist in General Relativity & Cosmology, engaged in theoretical and observational research of dark matter and dark matter energy.

How exactly is his word reliable? Or any real world physics?

The interviewer, Nikki, doesn't even appear to be connected to Dragon Ball, or, like, the Dragon Ball Room Initiative at all.
 
Something I want to say is if you’re gonna talk about toei cosmology do that in a seperate CRT and not this one
Also the Infinite universe has 1 staff agree and 1 staff disagree so far
If this gets rejected then it’ll just make the argument for infinite universe not being infinite less unlikely to happen again as there’s counters to this this topic is important since a cosmology blog is being made so there’s no point in saying stop doing it and just disprove it

Can someone name the contradictions as well? And if someone mentions the edge of the universe again https://vsbattles.com/threads/dragonball-cosmology-revision-part-3.150265/post-5534537
Is anyone gonna respond to this or??
 
Can someone name the contradictions as well?
Not necessarily case of the information being contradictory, but of the information lacking any grounds in the original series, which, by the Wiki's standards, means the information is as good as useless.
 



What now?


Yes, that seems reasonable.

Can each side here do so in a comprehensive, but well-structured and easy to understand manner please?
Can you take a look?
To reiterate, please cite your sources if you can. We need to know where these scans come from.
Can you check it out?
 
Worst of all, it's talking about the verse and how the time machine works, and everything, also about the Universe being infinite, so it's valid! As long as it's from an official source.
how is that talking about the universe being infinite at all? it is just explaining how time travel works in db, which is no different than how we already treat it already
 
Not necessarily case of the information being contradictory, but of the information lacking any grounds in the original series, which, by the Wiki's standards, means the information is as good as useless.
Yakon’s planet is a planet of darkness where there’s no light but either way there’s no contradictions and even so if it’s not contradicted it doenst make it useless
We don't scrap guidebooks because of no mention of them in the source material. Sorry, but whoever told you that is plain wrong.
We only scrap them if they contradict the source material.
I see calculation members when I see staff that are online are calculation members staff?
 
Something I want to say is if you’re gonna talk about toei cosmology do that in a seperate CRT and not this one
Also the Infinite universe has 1 staff agree and 1 staff disagree so far
If this gets rejected then it’ll just make the argument for infinite universe not being infinite less unlikely to happen again as there’s counters to this this topic is important since a cosmology blog is being made so there’s no point in saying stop doing it and just disprove it

Can someone name the contradictions as well? And if someone mentions the edge of the universe again https://vsbattles.com/threads/dragonball-cosmology-revision-part-3.150265/post-5534537
Alright so we’ve discussed there’s no contradictions correct? So what other argument is there since the universe having an edge has been discussed and the opposition has s agreed there’s no contradictions
 
Yakon’s planet still exists in the manga it just doesn’t have the same statement of being on the far side of the universe and in the daizenshuu is described as being dark due to the lack of stars
then it isn't useful in proving that there is an infinite darkness around an observable light universe
 
Alright so we’ve discussed there’s no contradictions correct?
summary of my arguments here:


The counter argument being used for the universe having an edge is that it is the edge of the "observable/light part" of the universe and that after that there is an infinite darkness that is infinite in size, but when we see the universe from an outside perspective we see no greater darkness surrounding a light part of it, which would disqualify this said darkness from even being a thing at all, some brought up how we don't see the other dimensions of the macrocosm, but since they are other dimensions they would be in other planes of existance and wouldn't be seeable from an outside perspective, plus the model used to say that they would be seeable is never used in the dbz manga and dbs anime so the series depiction takes precedence over it anyway, plus the statement itself never specified that it is talking about any observable universe in place of the entire universe, and we have no reason to believe that it is talking about an specific part of it


So what other argument is there since the universe having an edge has been discussed and the opposition has s agreed there’s no contradictions
the oposition has not agreed on it tho?
 
then it isn't useful in proving that there is an infinite darkness around an observable light universe
Well it’s a planet of darkness where there’s no stars but either way the guides aren’t contradicting the series and unless they do that’s when they’re scrapped
Not necessarily case of the information being contradictory, but of the information lacking any grounds in the original series, which, by the Wiki's standards, means the information is as good as useless.
the oposition has not agreed on it tho?
If you don’t agree you may name the contradiction
 
Well it’s a planet of darkness where there’s no stars but either way the guides aren’t contradicting the series and unless they do that’s when they’re scrapped


If you don’t agree you may name the contradiction
You can be carefree, the only contradiction in the Universe being infinite is the fact that they claim that the Universe has only four Galaxies, the rest is not even an argument, AKM when it was in the review it had a bad interpretation and caused the Galaxies business, that's all you need to disprove, the rest doesn't matter.



"like the existence of four galaxie
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You can be carefree, the only contradiction in the Universe being infinite is the fact that they claim that the Universe has only four Galaxies, the rest is not even an argument, AKM when it was in the review it had a bad interpretation and caused the Galaxies business, that's all you need to disprove, the rest doesn't matter.
4 galaxies which are a denomination used by the gods
You can be carefree, the only contradiction in the Universe being infinite is the fact that they claim that the Universe has only four Galaxies, the rest is not even an argument, AKM when it was in the review it had a bad interpretation and caused the Galaxies business, that's all you need to disprove, the rest doesn't matter.
That wasn’t a contradiction it’s just a denomination used by the gods referring to sections or quadrants of the universe which are infinitely expanding and the space beyond this is an infinite darkness and referred to as infinitely expansive universe but yeah I’m not worried I would love to see any contradictions and actual arguments that haven’t been refuted as things like this just make the argument better and stronger
 
4 galaxies which are a denomination used by the gods

That wasn’t a contradiction it’s just a denomination used by the gods referring to sections or quadrants of the universe which are infinitely expanding and the space beyond this is an infinite darkness and referred to as infinitely expansive universe but yeah I’m not worried I would love to see any contradictions and actual arguments that haven’t been refuted as things like this just make the argument better and stronger
Good, this is the only contradiction they use to say that the universe is not infinite, I'm even shocked by it, lol
 
Space is infinite beyond the stars and earth is shown at the edge of a galactic region. Still consistent.
She straight says that the universe has an edge tho, this is a contradiction, plus the supposed "infinite" darkness not being there when we see the universe from outside
 
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