Angels time manipulation 5D manga

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Whis mentions that if he uses his time manipulation too much, he'll turn off the time axis in chapter 14 of the manga ( in the colored English version )



In the translation thread i got an answer about whether it means time axis in the Japanese translation

It shows ( 時間軸 Jìkáńjìkú ) on the bottom bubble, which does mean time axis/timeline, though given that Dragon Ball always talks about Timelines given from Future Trunks and the Androids and all that shenanigans, so timeline is IMO more suitable. But its up to interpretation.

I talked to @Qawsedf234 and he told me that this qualifies for manipulating a 5D structure

What i mean is that Whis can manipulate the time axis or timeline if he uses his powers too much and that's why he avoids using time manipulation constantly ( in other words the angels will have 5D time manipulation based on it affecting a 5D structure ).

Detail: i didn't mention the anime version because i don't remember if this same quote occurs anymore.

Agree: @DarkDragonMedeus, @AwkguyDB ,@Da3ggman , @CelestialVortex01,@Johner2133451 , @RenderGK, @Elyartaker , @LuffyRuffy46307,@Vietthai96,@Killerdrone123 ,@GarrixianXD,@StekFence ,@CryoTheMayo ,@ActuallySpaceMan42,@Elizhaa,@TheTenno07, @Bernkastelll , @MountainWine ,@Nierre , @Ebihara, @TheNothing84,@Dagoth_OwO

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

So this is for time manipulation hax? I'm okay with that.

 

[AwkguyDB]

I agree well done Luffy

 

[StarShooter80]

But the angels don't have manga profiles who will this be applied to?

 

[Johner2133451]

Would this upscale DB cosmology?

 

[Vietthai96]

But the angels don't have manga profiles who will this be applied to?

Grand Priest manga profile, since he upscales from all Angels, probably Merus too

Would this upscale DB cosmology?

No, this just make Angel time hax being 5D smurf

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

So this is for time manipulation hax? I'm okay with that.

That's right, just for hax manipulation.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I agree well done Luffy

Thank you very much

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

But the angels don't have manga profiles who will this be applied to?

Merus and Daishinkan

Grand Priest manga profile, since he upscales from all Angels, probably Merus too


No, this just make Angel time hax being 5D smurf

That

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Would this upscale DB cosmology?

Nothing, cosmology is already accepted as being 5D, this is just a 5D hax.

 

[Hasty12345]

Would this upscale DB cosmology?

No because it’s already scaling from the cosmology being 5D due to the hyper timeline which is what Whis manipulates.

 

[Johner2133451]

No because it’s already scaling from the cosmology being 5D due to the hyper timeline which is what Whis manipulates.

Oh ok. Is their time manipulation layered btw

 

[Hasty12345]

Oh ok. Is their time manipulation layered btw

Not sure, you might be able to infer since angels can have different strengths their hax may be layered, but I don’t think there’s a way to prove it. It’s highly likely GP’s time manipulation is far superior to Whis’ but I think the Wikis layer standards would require more direct proof.

 

[Da3ggman]

This seems fine.

 

[Johner2133451]

Not sure, you might be able to infer since angels can have different strengths their hax may be layered, but I don’t think there’s a way to prove it. It’s highly likely GP’s time manipulation is far superior to Whis’ but I think the Wikis layer standards would require more direct proof.

Well if they can effect the entire hypertimeline with their time manip, I think it could be layered upscaling from Hit's own time manip

 

[CelestialVortex01]

I'm impressed, I fully agree with this thread

 

[StarShooter80]

Merus and Daishinkan

right I uh forgot oof. Anyways thread's good

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

right I uh forgot oof. Anyways thread's good

Thanks

 

[RoninSlayer200]

Just wanna point out something

1-) This doesn't scale to angels' physical stats, only their time manipulation becomes 5D
2-) Merus has no reason to get 5D time manip, he is a trainee angel so we can't be sure that he can rewind a timeline like Whis and other angels

 

[RenderGK]

Well

 

[Elyartaker]

Fantastic thread
I agree

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

I don't understand why this is being treated as he is manipulating the 2nd layered time axis, Or rather the hyper-timeline instead of just their normal one?

Would you be willing to explain that?

Edited the grammar, and fixed spelling mistakes.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I don't understand why this is treated as he is manipulating the 2nd layerd time axis, Or rather they hyper-timeline instead of just their normal one?

Would you be willing to explain that?

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

That is not what I am questioning, but unless I missed something the timeline in DB is 4D, but the Hyper-timeline is 5D?

So I am asking when a single timeline became (5D), since that would make the Hyper timeline 6D, or why we assume this feat is affecting the hyper timeline.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

That is not what I am questioning, but unless I missed something the timeline in DB is 4D, but the Hyper-timeline is 5D?

So I am asking when a single timeline became (5D), since that would make the Hyper timeline 6D, or why we assume this feat is affecting the hyper timeline.

Nop, the temporal timeline is not 4D, but 5D and Whis can affect it with his time manipulation, you can see this on the DB page.

Hypertimelines In Dragon Ball Explained

vsbattles.fandom.com

It has become practically 1 year and each timeline is 5D according to the page, so affecting one is manipulating a 5D structure.

Summary: each timeline is its own hyper timeline that is, if a character destroys a timeline he becomes low 1-C and Zeno is scaled for that.

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Nop, the temporal timeline is not 4D, but 5D and Whis can affect it with his time manipulation, you can see this on the DB page.

It has become practically 1 year and each timeline is 5D according to the page, so affecting one is manipulating a 5D structure.

Can you send me the link to the page, since it appears I have gained access to the wrong one here?

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Can you send me the link to the page, since it appears I have gained access to the wrong one here?

Exactly, the only things that are 4D are the Universes and the timeline is 5D, do you have any further questions?

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Exactly, the only things that are 4D are the Universes and the timeline is 5D, do you have any further questions?

From the way I understand the blog, it speaks of 2-time dimensions (axis), meaning a "Timeline" and a "Hyper-timeline"

What proves that this affects the 2nd layer of the time axis?

If you can't answer that, I would like someone who can, or someone that can explain to me what I am misunderstanding.

 

[Vietthai96]

From the way I understand the blog, it speaks of 2-time dimensions (axis), meaning a "Timeline" and a "Hyper-timeline"

then you understand it wrong, timeline is hypertimeline, it is that the verse use the term timeline for it, 4D space-time is referring to as Universe or Macrocosm, you are hyper-focusing on the surface definition texts, fiction don't need to slap an exact "hypertimeline" word. So if anyone can affect timeline, mean it is the hypertimeline get affected, because when characters in the verse talking about hypertimeline, they said: "timeline"

Anyway i need to sleep now, late in my timezone

 

[Killerdrone123]

Looks simple I agree with the thread

 

[GarrixianXD]

Euuhhhhhhh... alright then, I suppose.

 

[StekFence]

I agree as well

 

[CryoTheMayo]

Obviously I agree.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

So, timelines are 5D and Whis Time HAxed the timeline? If so, I agree.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

So, timelines are 5D and Whis Time HAxed the timeline? If so, I agree.

Yes, they are.

 

[Elizhaa]

This proposal looks fine.

 

[TheTenno07]

Totally agree

 

[Bernkastelll]

Ofc I agree

 

[MountainWine]

Agree

 

[Nierre]