Dragon Ball Super Tier 2 Debunk

[Godhand1999]

Answer this, what does a world like _this_ mean?

What are you even saying? "A world like THIS" means Zeno was referring to the universe that he was going to blow up. Zeno's power only affected one universe, not a single thing in that video even implies that Zamasu's power was merging with the 12 universes.

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

They never call the universes worlds, only 12 of them. Zeno even destroyed all 12 so in context he meant the multiverse.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Whis: I believe it's possible to '''return to a time in your world''' before it was erased.

 

[Godhand1999]

Whis said nothing about that, he said there was an entirely new timeline in which some of his loved ones are alive. That's where they traveled; he wasn't referring to the white void remained when Zeno erased everything. "The World" whenever used by the gods of Dragon Ball Super also refers to the 12 Universes, not any singular universe. World means the timeline in this context.

No, not at all. Whis literally said,

"I believe it's possible to return to a time in your world before it was erased"

Whis was literally going to time travel to the future to prevent Beerus from vanishing due to the Supreme Kai's death.

Also, no. "The World" in this context is referring to Universe 7, not the 12 universes. Not a single shred of evidence has been provided for this and Zamasu has kind of failed to deliver on that notion.

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

Whis: I believe it's possible to return to a time in your world before it was erased.

You're just proving my point that the multiverse was erased.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Never denied that Zeno erased all 12 universes, what I'm saying is that it doesn't prove Infinite Zamasu merged with all of them.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Anyone who's carefully watched Dragon Ball Super knows that whenever a god character says "The World" they mean the multiverse within the timeline. They would have simply said "this Universe" if they only meant Universe 7. There's also the fact that Zamasu and Goku Black were able to kill all the Kaioshins thus proving that they are well aware of the existence of the 12 universes.

 

[ÆONS]

The term "world" is nebulous as it can refer to just universe 7, all the 12 universes, or just the flipping planet the characters are standing on. The sentence Zamasu Chan brought up is not helpful as it can literally mean two different things for "good reasons". Anyways, what is important is whether or not Zeno did indeed destroy all the 12 universes (and/or alongside the timeline).

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

He basically said that Zamasu was infecting the multiverse, that's why he said a world like this must disappear. Zeno has never destroyed the multiverse before.

 

[ÆONS]

Did Zeno actually destroy the multiverse? And by that I mean this: Did he destroy the 12 universes?

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

The 12 universes.

 

[Godhand1999]

They never call the universes worlds, only 12 of them. Zeno even destroyed all 12 so in context he meant the multiverse.

No, in that video his power was only affecting one universe. "This world" in this context merely refers to Universe 7, Zamasu. Your video does not support your argument, it actually proves our points.

 

[Godhand1999]

Zamasu wasn't infecting the Multiverse, he was just affecting Universe 7.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

@Aeons, we're well aware of the general definition of World. But Zeno was outright referring to all the universes as he considered Zamasu the most annoying thing he's ever seen in his life. And that's despite the fact that he erased 6 out of 18 universes at once before. It makes far more sense to say that he erased everything because of that. Zamasu was effecting time and space and even appearing in other timelines and time periods.

 

[ÆONS]

@Aeons, we're well aware of the general definition of World. But Zeno was outright referring to all the universes as he considered Zamasu the most annoying thing he's ever seen in his life. And that's despite the fact that he erased 6 out of 18 universes at once before. It makes far more sense to say that he erased everything because of that.

Yes, and EVEN IF he only refered to Universe 7, the fact that he destroyed all the 12 universes does not change.

 

[Godhand1999]

Anyone who's carefully watched Dragon Ball Super knows that whenever a god character says "The World" they mean the multiverse within the timeline. They would have simply said "this Universe" if they only meant Universe 7. There's also the fact that Zamasu and Goku Black were able to kill all the Kaioshins thus proving that they are well aware of the existence of the 12 universes.

But that's not what the evidence that Zamasu brought to the table showcased at all. "This world" in this context means Universe 7. Zamasu's power was only affecting one universe, not any of the others.

 

[ÆONS]

Does it really matter what Zeno was talking about when in the end he destroys everything, the 12 universes, anyways? Feats matter more than statements here.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I think it's about time we close the thread since it's going in circles and wasting multiple users' times. If there's going to be another major revision thread like this, it should probably be staff only.

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

If Zeno only destroyed the universe then why didn't Whis just suggest that Trunks and Mai move to a new universe in their timelines?