Dragon Ball Super Revision Thread

[Dragonmasterxyz]

In this thread we will discuss and handle all Dragon Ball Super revisions.

Revisions will only be discussed here.

Thank you.

I will be listing topics so that we stay organized and so we don't jump through multiple things at once.

Current Topic: Base Goku Scaling

Former topics: Misc Abilities

Speed

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

I do think this should be staff only...

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

It isn't.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

It is now.

 

[SomebodyData]

I think we should begin with something else first, like the abilities (https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...S_-_Stuff_to_talk_about_after_the_arc_is_over. )


Considering there is a 50 / 50 chance that the scaling debate will go cray cray eventually.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

We shouldn't go Staff only just yet.

 

[Golden_Void]

Base Goku: 3-A

This and this is all that's really necessary tbh.

Also his vast improvement since the Black arc, since base Black was toying with SSB Vegeta.

Also their punches were going to destroy everything, which would be a High 3-A feat for destroying the afterlife too.

 

[FTW395]

Completely limiting community input doesn't seem like the best idea, just because I'm not an admin doesn't mean I can't give any valid points in this discussion.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

We need to start by re-scaling the profiles from base Goku being Multi-Galaxy level+. This is the biggest thing to change.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Okay, I will start this as General Discussion for now. However, if things go wild, we will move it to Staff Only. Understood?

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

So are we doing Misc Abilities or re-scaling?

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Agreed, Dragon.

 

[Dark649]

The only thing that i can provide is my blogs in my wall, i will add the new episode soon.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

So are we doing Misc Abilities or re-scaling?

Which are we doing first? I need to update the OP.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Do misc abilities first as it is something we can get over with in less than an hour.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Here are some ripped straight from SD's blog. What do you all think?

• Not much of an ability, but it should be noted that Hit's Self-Improvement matched Dypso's 1000x speed boost. -Dragon Ball Super Episode 104 [Hit]
• Technological Manipulation: (Added a slow mode replay to the GodPad mid tournament out of nowhere. [Also note how there was nothing recording the fight to begin with...) -Dragon Ball Super Episode 104 [Grand Priest]
• Forcefield Creation (Resistance to Poison Manipulation) - Dragon Ball Super Episode 98 [Gohan, Goku, Vegeta]
• Reality Warping (Primarily used as Gravity Manipulation, Spatial Manipulation, and Power Nullification) - Dragon Ball Super Episode 97 [Grand Priest, probably applies to the Angels too considering we see them with Spacial Manipulation as well.]
• Telekinesis - Dragon Ball Super Episode 97 [Gods of Destruction]
• Creation - Dragon Ball Super Episode 97 [Gods of Destruction]
• Resistance to Soul Destruction - Dragon Ball Super Episode 95. [Golden Frieza and to a lesser degree, Base Goku]

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

@KOM We aren't discussing that right now. See the OP for Current Topics.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

@Dragon

I agree and I think all can be added to the profiles.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Guys...let's stay on one topic at a time.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Shouldn't this be highlighted?

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Only for a little bit.

 

[Golden_Void]

Resistance to Soul Destruction should be Existence Erasure. It was literally described that way . As for tech manipulation, isn't it more likely that GP is good with technology, instead of applying an ability that we don't see used on screen at all?

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

@Unite

It's that he creates / improves the technology with his powers, which is Technopathy, just like the Emperor of Mankind fixing machines by touching them is Technopathy.

 

[Dark649]

I gave Goku and Vegeta the barrier abilites, i'm uncertain about the multi-universal stuff about the Grand Priest and i disagree with Zen'o and Champa being slower than Hit.

Blog 1 and Blog 2 along with the new episode, which i will soon cover.

Note: Base Goku is comparable to Base Vegeta and Frieza, who oneshots the opponents that he engages, so Goku seems to have the attitude to test and take hits from his opponents and goes serious when needed, lastly Whis says that SSB heavily drains energy, but it was used a lot of times [Goku used it with Krillin] worse and SS3 and without seen them tiring [Goku only after Kaioken with Hit].

Note 2: The different scaling and the return SSG thing is caused by the shifting of different writers, who likely did not knew about past events and etc. [One example is the writer, who initially said that Goku can bust the universe as God of Destruction, aka this new form, but he was close to do it right in the first arc as a SSG]

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Basically. He's adding new feature with his powers.

 

[Golden_Void]

True true, he did say I've added a new function to the Godpad mid-battle, it makes sense. :^)

But soul destruction -> existence erasure definitely.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

But soul destruction -> existence erasure definitely.

This likely will be the main point of discussion.

 

[Golden_Void]

Also, resistance to poison via forcefields shouldn't really be a thing, you would need to be hit with the poison to actually develop a resistance to it. Gohan was able to fight while poisoned, but I think it knocked him out eventually, I'm not sure.

Now something like can prevent the transmission of poison or something like that makes more sense.

 

[Dark649]

Gohan did not displayed forcefiled, it is assumed since he was affected by Lavender poison.

 

[Dark649]

We also discussed that Frieza '''has no resistance to Erasure''' because that was an energy sphere from a God and not the Hakai tecnique.

 

[Newendigo]

Two highlighted DBS threads in a go.....

 

[Golden_Void]

@Dark

This

The only difference between Hakai and EoD is that the enrgy is the only one (so far) that can be resisted.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

@Unite

I think it is fair to admit that Saiyans have a higher resistance to Poison than normal people, tho.

 

[Golden_Void]

A higher resistance to poison yeah, but not for the forcefield reasons.

 

[LordXcano]

I agree with Unite. Having armor doesn't give me resistance to every kind of energetic attack possible, the fact I needed armor to tank it in the first place shows that.

 

[KarmodF]

Also their punches were going to destroy everything, which would be a High 3-A feat for destroying the afterlife too.

/thread

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

The afterlife isn't infinite in size...

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Updated Grand Priest's powers. Feel free to add the appropriate powers to the GoDs and Angels.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

I wouldn't go that far...

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Afterlife is equal to the physical universe in size and there's also the Kaioshin Realm which is around 1/10th of the universe.