Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 82

[AwkguyDB]

Wait dosen't the sub still say Jiren's ki will crush everyone? Isn't that still grounds for a passive attack?

No idea, i don't remember it being in the sub but the heat coming from his limit breaker form is accepted as a passive attack if there is a massive AP gap, just like with MUI Goku.
At least no one said anything against it last time it was brough up.

"This force is going to crush us as well." - Supreme Kai of U11 @2:38

 

[ChocomilkAlex]

Passive Gravity Manipulation?

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

Nah, it is actually Willpower Manipulation.

Realizing the force and greatness of Jiren's pecks, everyone else has their will crushed and unable to do anything. So like Vanilla GER, but MANLIER.

 

[AKM sama]

It's called flexing his energy. Anyone who is significantly powerful is able to blow the fodders away with their energy.

 

[ArgosaxDespair]

I think Goku negated Caulifla's and Kale's blasts by simply powering up to SSJ3, and is clear that his SSJ3 aura negated the attacks. Since his aura crushed ki, the same probably applies for whoever is in the way, especially when they came up with ideas like fire ki or heat.

 

[AwkguyDB]

It's called flexing his energy. Anyone who is significantly powerful is able to blow the fodders away with their energy.

crushing someone is a little more specific than blowing someone away though lol

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

I mean it's possible that Jiren can do that to Belmod because he's stronger, at full power, and is countering a blast that could potentially eliminate him. And even if his aura can crush Belmod it doesn't mean he's hundreds of times stronger than Belmod, let alone times period.

 

[AKM sama]

The meaning it conveys is still about the destructive power of a massively stronger character flexing his energy, which isn't limited to Jiren. It is true for any other character having superior AP and flexing his energy like that.

 

[ProudLearner]

I cannot believe I have missed this.

That CRT is very funny to read. That made my day.

 

[AKM sama]

Lmao that broken bone comment had me laughing.

 

[ArgosaxDespair]

"ah yes the time when Goku broke infinite Zamasu's bones"

LOL this sh*t made my day

 

[JackJoyce]

Wish it was real

 

[BlastX]

Kaioken God?

 

[Lord_Ace900]

I think Goku negated Caulifla's and Kale's blasts by simply powering up to SSJ3, and is clear that his SSJ3 aura negated the attacks. Since his aura crushed ki, the same probably applies for whoever is in the way, especially when they came up with ideas like fire ki or heat.

Remined me of this [[1]]

 

[ZERO7772]

IIRC Gogeta did it one of fan animations. Kaio-ken SSG.

 

[ArgosaxDespair]

Yo, can mortals sense god ki in the manga? I don't remember it being mentioned

 

[HAKKAIDER]

yes and no, you see they can't feel their level of power (extra sensory perception), but if they are so absurdly powerful that their energies crush others with the pressure then they feel the energy gripping, but not the one who gives it away., in other words they cannot distinguish who is emanating the energy if they are not seeing   g

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

Yes and no, you see they can't feel their level of power (extra sensory perception), but if they are so absurdly powerful that their energies crush others with the pressure then they feel the energy gripping, but not the one who gives it away., in other words they cannot distinguish who is emanating the energy if they are not seeing.

Fixed.

 

[Quibster]

?

 

[Quibster]

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/3562284?useskin=oasis

Post ToP Golden Frieza vs ToP SSJ2 + Berserker Kefla

 

[Quibster]

Also, In response to the Super Saiyan God Kaioken, I wish Mastered Ultra Instinct Kaioken was a thing.

 

[Dragomer]

Also, In response to the Super Saiyan God Kaioken, I wish Mastered Ultra Instinct Kaioken was a thing.

dunno, would be a bit much, no ? a Kaio style adapted ultra instinct would be cool though, where Goku would be constantly absorbing energie from around him to offset the heavy toll UI take on the body.

That and it would be a cool reminder of how important King Kai was to Goku developement as a warrior.

 

[BlackeJan]

Just imagine Goku going MUI then adding god ki to it

Or maybe going SSB on top of MUI

 

[JackJoyce]

dunno, would be a bit much, no ? a Kaio style adapted ultra instinct would be cool though, where Goku would be constantly absorbing energie from around him to offset the heavy toll UI take on the body.

That and it would be a cool reminder of how important King Kai was to Goku developement as a warrior.

Yes and healing plants and animals around him with the aura. Lord and savior Goku

 

[Warren_Valion]

I feel like Ultra Instinct's need for a "calm mind" would actually be beneficial for the use of Kaio-ken.

 

[Roun12]

I feel like Ultra Instinct's need for a "calm mind" would actually be beneficial for the use of Kaio-ken.

While the form is active yeah, probably. But then there's the whole issue of Ultra Instinct severely draining Goku's stamina or damaging his body when he exits the form which would likely be worsened by the use of Kaio-ken.

 

[BlackeJan]

SSB requires a "clam mind" as well....so hypothetically Goku could go SSB + MUI if that was to ever happen

 

[Dragomer]

Not a fan of combining any hair color changing form with another one TBH.

I feel UI would be better combined with utilitarian move rather than just stacking Kaioken on it, which is just another strenght boosting technique that damage the body, it's redundant IMO.

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

I'm fine with sticking with ssj, ssg, ssb, and MUI on rare occasions.

 

[ZERO7772]

Not a fan of combining any hair color changing form with another one TBH.

I feel UI would be better combined with utilitarian move rather than just stacking Kaioken on it, which is just another strenght boosting technique that damage the body, it's redundant IMO.

Gotta sell dem toys! As long DBS exist Goku will unlock more and more transformations

 

[ArgosaxDespair]

IIRC a DB related guy (possibly the DBS Broly director) said that after Broly, DB wouldn't have more characters that only rely on brute force. If I'm not crazy and my mind's not making this up, from now on, we'll probably get villains with exotic and weird abilities instead of just power level, like Moro, who isn't that strong, but is the absolute counter for Saiyans.

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

Zamasu Chan wrote:
I have a pretty large request for Goku (Super).

• SSJ

• SSJ2

• SSG

• SSB

I chose these images because: one, ssj Goku's picture doesn't appear on Mobile and his current ssj2, ssg, and ssb renders look very jaggey. Two, they have a very consistent, high quality art style and they're all made by TheTabbyNeko. Three, his ssj3 render is made by Neko and is already in his profile so why not replace them and give Niko credit at the same time?

 

[Dragomer]

I'm not really against it but the SSJ2 look weird IMO.

 

[Warren_Valion]

Zamasu Chan wrote:
I have a pretty large request for Goku (Super).

• SSJ

• SSJ2

• SSG

• SSB

I chose these images because: one, ssj Goku's picture doesn't appear on Mobile and his current ssj2, ssg, and ssb renders look very jaggey. Two, they have a very consistent, high quality art style and they're all made by TheTabbyNeko. Three, his ssj3 render is made by Neko and is already in his profile so why not replace them and give Niko credit at the same time?

Nah - the artwork that's there looks better imo.

 

[Omegas03]

The SSJ one that ZamasuChan put looks really cool though.

 

[AwkguyDB]

dunno, would be a bit much, no ? a Kaio style adapted ultra instinct would be cool though, where Goku would be constantly absorbing energie from around him to offset the heavy toll UI take on the body.

That and it would be a cool reminder of how important King Kai was to Goku developement as a warrior.

Yes and healing plants and animals around him with the aura. Lord and savior Go

cough he did that already

 

[AwkguyDB]

Zamasu Chan wrote:
I have a pretty large request for Goku (Super).

• SSJ

• SSJ2

• SSG

• SSB

I chose these images because: one, ssj Goku's picture doesn't appear on Mobile and his current ssj2, ssg, and ssb renders look very jaggey. Two, they have a very consistent, high quality art style and they're all made by TheTabbyNeko. Three, his ssj3 render is made by Neko and is already in his profile so why not replace them and give Niko credit at the same time?

Nah - the artwork that's there looks better imo.

hold on I personally think SSJB and SSJ should get the changes. They look too softly drawn compared to the other Yammy designs like SSJ3

 

[JackJoyce]

cough he did that already

That background music is sick. I miss the time when SSJ and SSJ2 were still relevant. SSJ3 and SSB are the most useless transformations ever

 

[AwkguyDB]

cough he did that already

That background music is sick. I miss the time when SSJ and SSJ2 were still relevant. SSJ3 and SSB are the most useless transformations ever

I honestly missed when SSJ3 was the trump card where the user had a certain amount of time to finish the fight or else the drawbacks would set in

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

DBS is the type of show to have base Goku on Beerus's level but be weaker than Whis even with UI.