Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 39

[IkaniL]

@IkaniL Well it depends to be honest. I mean it IS technically Multi-Universe Level but normally in these cases 2-C is given to characters who can warp entire Space-Time Continnums and not just parts of another like Shin Budokai Janemba.

Would you say it qualifies for Multi-Universal Range?

The storms seemed to expand into infinity. As there is no concept of distance or direction there. The place also is composed of the fourth dimension, as it is used for Time travel in the main univese.

 

[Ryukama]

I think Frieza will likely try to use this tournament as an opportunity to acquaint with other universes, get on some of the gods' good sides, etc.

But I can't see him murdering two gods in front of Zen'ō and Daishinkan due to inexplicably finding out the kai weakness, getting promoted on spot because of it then compete as a GoD to win the tournament.

The idea is a very cool idea for a possible storyline though.

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

@IkaniL what storms are you referring too??? You mean what Fusion Zamasu did in Xenoverse 2???

 

[IkaniL]

@IkaniL what storms are you referring too??? You mean what Fusion Zamasu did in Xenoverse 2???

Its from another verse. I couldn't find anybody who could answer it so I asked in this thread since I was following it and saw Mods apart of it.

Basically Space-Time storms. The area exists on the fourth dimension of a place separate from the universe.

Again, I'm sorry for bringing up something not on topic. This feat is just too large to ignore it is what it seems to be.

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

@Ryukama It would really be a cool Post-Tournament of Power storyline. Although to be honest I really want them to get to Uub already.

 

[Ryukama]

Hopefully they surpass EoZ and firmly put the nail in the coffin on GT's canonicity ovo

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

@IkaniL You could do a Thread in the Questions and Anwsers Board and people could give their thoughts there.

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

Hopefully they surpass EoZ and firmly put the nail in the coffin on GT's canonicity ovo

Triggered

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

Hopefully they surpass EoZ and firmly put the nail in the coffin on GT's canonicity ovo

That would be a massive troll to GT fans Lol.


EDIT:Also I think it was confirmed in an interview that DBS would indeed go through to the end of Z and possibly beyond.

 

[Ryukama]

Personally I want GT to be a separate timeline like Future Trunks'. It's still official and it still exists, but isn't connected to the main series DB, DBZ and DBS.

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

Well at least DB XV2 has GT being an alternate timeline. In fact XV2 did the Sword of Hope part of the Goku Black Arc much better.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Xenoverse 1 it is also an alternate timeline... Remember Future Warrior fighting against: Omega Shenron , Super 17 , Eis Shenron , & Nova Shenron . Plus he was fighting with : Trunks, Pan, Goku , Vegeta, and Gogeta .

 

[Golden_Void]

XV Zamasu is so much more OP compared to any other incarnation just because of the people Trunks got energy from

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

That's definitely true. Zamasu in Xenoverse is a big threat.

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

Let's go down the list shall we:


1.XV Goku Black apparently has Universal+ Range (He was able to cut a hole in Space-Time and bring Villains from various points in the Timeline)

2.The Sword of Hope in XV2 is powered up by various people in different Timelines and not to mention Time Patrol Trunks who at this point is High 3-A. And Merged Zamasu was able to hold his own against it for a while.

3.XV Infinite Zamasu has solid At least Multi-Universal Range (His presence was felt all the way to the Time Nest. Although I still think he is Low 2-C)


There are many more but geez Xenoverse take a break.

 

[Golden_Void]

XV3- 1-C time patrollers lol

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

And not to mention that all of these villains are powered up by Dark Magic so they are even more powerful than normal....jikes.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

I do think Merged Zamasu is stronger than Demigra though.

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

XV Merged Zamasu??? Maybe...but not with prep though.


I mean he did fight with both the XV1 and XV2 Warriors for a while but then the XV1 Warrior left. And the gap between the Low 2-C's in Xenoverse isn't that large to be honest.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

I thought so.

It is pretty big if you use their highest feats. ( FYI, did you get my message on your wall Julian ? )

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

Well the highest feats are by Both Demigra and Mira by absorbing Toki Toki and it's egg respectively. The rest is via powerscaling. And even if you count Whis' training,said training isn't a part of the actual story so it would not necessarily scale to Zamasu.


Oh and yes I saw your message and have replied.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Yeah... It is post-story. Anyways..

I see. Hope to get another seal of approval.

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

Although I'll admit the post-story Future Warriors are ridiculously strong. They are pretty high on the Low 2-C scale.

 

[DodoNova2]

Can we create the profiles of angels or not?

 

[RadicalMrR]

If u can give valid reasoning for their stats, yes.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

I know they are Julian. I know they are.

 

[-BANLK-]

 

[Darkinx]

I do think Merged Zamasu is stronger than Demigra though.

Iirc demigra was sure he could take on beerus, yet unsure on taking on whis.

XV Merged Zamasu isn't even SSB vegito level

 

[ΚΟΜΙΞ]

I do think Merged Zamasu is stronger than Demigra though.

Iirc demigra was sure he could take on beerus, yet unsure on taking on whis.
XV Merged Zamasu isn't even SSB vegito level

Based on what? XV MZ was defeated physically by Multiverse Spirit Sword. That's OP dude.

 

[Darkinx]

I do think Merged Zamasu is stronger than Demigra though.

Iirc demigra was sure he could take on beerus, yet unsure on taking on whis.
XV Merged Zamasu isn't even SSB vegito level

Based on what? XV MZ was defeated physically by Multiverse Spirit Sword. That's OP dude.

By looking at the dialogues. Vegito was never in trouble during the battle, and if we consider XV characters stronger than canon ones (due to dark magic) we can consider MZ on par with Vegito at most.

If Vegito hadn't defused, he would've beaten MZ probably

 

[AppleLord]

I was inclined to the idea of Frieza becoming a God of destruction after the ToP is over.

 

[MeleeniumRXJ]

Probably a dumb question, but are profiles for the Kaioshin ever gonna be made? I noticed Gowasu never got one.

 

[The_Everlasting]

Most Kaioshin are featless and can't get good scaling like the GoDs.

 

[MeleeniumRXJ]

They'd probably scale to Shin at least, wouldn't they?

 

[Darkinx]

Most Kaioshin are featless and can't get good scaling like the GoDs.

According to Toei website, U2 Kaioshin is stroger than South Kaioshin

 

[RadicalMrR]

Most Kaioshin are featless and can't get good scaling like the GoDs.

The Kaioshin are responsible for creating all the celestial bodies for their respective universe, isnt that like High 4-C?

 

[The_Everlasting]

Hadn't considered that, but maybe?

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Until we actually see any Kaioshin do it, no. The statement about they doing it old (from 2013) and implies a chain reaction. They do something that then creates the planet / star.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

However, East Kaioshin >>>>>>>>>> 100% Freeza. That is at the very least something that may help. I would assume the other Kaioshin should be somewhat comparable to him.

 

[Darkinx]

We could create just Peru's profile.