Master Xar said:
Whis hasn't shown his full power and speed, he'd surely scale from this I am sure, also just because they aren't seemingly moving instantly doesn't mean it's an immediate downgrade, we don't see them displaying trillion FTL speed every moment of the fights nor see the universe he destroyed with every ki blast, besides if one part of the feat is an outlier ALL of it is an outlier, that's why we can't scale Roshi's moon buster to there speed since the AP is an outlier
....So what? If Whis had infinite speed how would he even suppress it? He'd be capable of travelling to any point instantaneously, which he clearly can't. If he could, there's absolutely no reason not to. Their speed is always slowed down for the audience, it's only logical. There wouldn't be any way to slow down infinitely fast movements, if they possessed infinite speed we should have seen just that, instantaneous movement scenes executed similar to Hit's, you can't slow that down...it's common sense. Also, there really isn't any proof that he could outpace his own shockwave. Many characters have destroyed a spacetime somewhat similarly, and clearly aren't infinite in speed...it just doesn't pose relevance to speed. Going along in full power is not exactly the best idea, Whis and Beerus especially Whis gave mostly been screwing around, what point would there be to showing Whis full out hightailing it with Beerus, it's like saying why a businessman doesn't go 140 mph to get to work, it's casual, only in a grave immergency would he use it, and we just learned Whis is an angel, he probably has a form infinitely faster than himself not, there are characters on this sight that have finite speed and in another Era/Form/incarnation have infinite or immeasurable speed
But we seen Goku and Vegeta power up and blocked Zamasu and Black's blast from killing The Kais in seemingly an instant, and if they both are infinite speed and displayed it all the time the fight we would have seen would be practically nothing
Many low 2-C destroy a timeline without being in it themselves not the same case with those who destroyed it while inside of it like Vegeta, You don't have to always show Dio and Hit moving instantly
Not really. There is no harm in instantly transporting anywhere, if the issue was powering up to your full power, then that AoE can still be controlled via ki manipulation, nothing we haven't seen before. That analogy you made isn't very relevant considering jumping from a finite speed to a greater but still finite speed is NOT the same as what you're implying for Whis. Many diehard Saitama fans claim him to have infinite power despite using an unquantifiable percentage of his power, you have to realize that infinity doesn't have a percentage. Either these guys used zero energy, or infinite energy, nothing in between.
Yeah, like the questionable dark schneider speed increase in DKL form. If Whis completely transformed and was regarded as unmatched in speed or some shit then yes, infinite speed won't be argued if demonstrated unless constantly contradicted. This is fanfiction at this point however. Powering up to infinity in his base state is DIFFERENT by the way....
Meaningless, doesn't give them infinite speed because me or you perceived it as "seemingly" instant. Even moving below light speed over such a small distance would seem infinite. What's your point? Seriously, that renders Goku's instant transmission useless. This infinite speed upgrade you're hoping for is absolutely ridiculous.
And yes, you do have to show characters displaying infinite speed unless in some cases it's more so a specific hax or ability than natural speed.
