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Vegeta upgrade

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Alright so, pretty obvious. Vegeta upgrade

Tier: 3-A (Beat down Super Saiyan Rose Goku Black)

Also, Vegeta was shown to have destroyed the hyperbolic time chamber. It would seem he did it from the INSIDE. Wouldn't this scale to low 2-C since its a dimension outside of space and time?

Edit: He destroyed the RoSaT in his BASE form
 
I have an explanation that backs up Vegeta destroying a continuum:

Back when SSJG Goku and Beerus fought the Old Kai said that Goku and Beerus fighting would destroy the universe and leave it void, keep in mind if you destroy all of matter and eliminate all of energy, you still don't have a complete void in the universe, since this supposed empty universe still has a quantum foam which still has some activity, so therefore, to leave the whole universe a true void, you need to destroy the quantum foam- which itself is the space-time of the universe itself

So maybe with this interpretation we can put SSJG Goku at low 2-C or High 3-A for fighting Beerus which in turn makes Vegeta being able to destroy the Hyperbolic Time Chamber looks normal (destroying an entire space-time continuum).
 
Not to be that guy but i am pretty sure destroying or creating an entire space-time continuum smaller than a universe is unquantifiable and is just hax from what i understand. I don't think the hyperbolic time chamber is as big as a universe.
 
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You could also take into account how they were also going to destroy Otherworld and time flows differently in Otherworld, but that might be pretty iffy.
 
Celestial Pegasus said:
Not to be that guy but i am pretty sure destroying or create an entire space-time continnuum below a universal is unquantifiable and is just hax, i don't think the hyperbolic time chamber is as big as a universe.
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1 - it would require infinite energy as per our tier system

2- hyperbolic time chamber is said to be infinitely large iirc

an infinitely large spacetime continuum
 
Celestial Pegasus said:
Not to be that guy but i am pretty sure destroying or create an entire space-time continnuum below a universal is unquantifiable and is just hax, i don't think the hyperbolic time chamber is as big as a universe.
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That's a high 3-A feat at least destroying space-time to any degree is bare minimum 3-A, not to mention Vegeta was still in there when he destroyed it and still escaped
 
Celestial Pegasus said:
Not to be that guy but i am pretty sure destroying or creating an entire space-time continnuum smaller than a universe is unquantifiable and is just hax from what i understand. I don't think the hyperbolic time chamber is as big as a universe.
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What kind of hax would we be looking at if we assume he took the whole thing out?
 
Roun12 said:
The Living Tribunal1 said:
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You could also take into account how they were also going to destroy Otherworld and time flows differently in Otherworld, but that might be pretty iffy.
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possible

but the quantumfoam/spacetime thing is supposed to be asupport piece to this new feat
 
I don't think this will be regarded as an outlier, I mean how else can they even reach 2-C?

And I agree with the explanation provided to support the feat. I believe Beerus should be at least 2-C via scaling. Whatever the saiyans can do, Beerus could do multiple times greater, since he was at least 10x SSJB Goku's level in the tournament. So multi-universe level seems very likely. This plus Vados' statement about Champa and Beerus fighting, I think we've made good progress.
 
I checked so yes destroying large parts of universe's a continuum below a universal level require infinite 3-D power that is if the continuum is of a universal size, though it specifically says creating large parts and not destroying but i would assume destroying works the same way.

I do remember the chamber being said to stretch infinitely so i think there is a case for that there but someone could just say that is an hyperbole and it isn't literally infinitely large. I am just gonna stay neutral and watch how this plays out.
 
Well apparently it looks like Vegeta was in middle of training and he went way too far and destroy the ROSAT well it is hard to believe he did that but it looks like he did so it would be interesting to see what the final decision would be regarding this but it does seem like Vegeta attains some new powers after his latest training.
 
Remember, this is Vegetas base form.

If anyone dares bring up he was probably in his SSB form, remember that Whis told him and Goku to train in their BASE form
 
Calling it a hyperbole would be merely downplaying it honestly. It should be at least similar to destroying an endlessly expansive universe's spacetime. If the statement's tone about the dimension being infinitely stretched sounded exaggerated, then yeah, it wouldn't be easily acceptable.
 
So wait if it's infinitely large wouldn't that make it have unending space, so would that make it a High 3-A or the space-time aspect of it, that's 2 stacked infinite due to 1. Destroying endless space 2. Destroying space-time making it a low 2-C

Also not gonna ignore that Vegeta was still in there when he destroyed it and still somehow can move and escaped that's a huge speed feat going nice and neatly right along side SSJB KKx10 moving while time was stopped...
 
well it does have a time frame different from the normal universe

so destroying it can be low 2-C

also read what i said about ssjg goku vs beerus

furthermore the statement that beerus vs champa would destroy 2 separate univeses is also there
 
Darkmon cns said:
Honestly I think this would go through better if we say it was super sayin blue that did it.
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I agree, it would be the more safe upgrade, IF it's accepted.
 
I did not watch the episode.

So:

1) What The?!

2) F*Ck did I miss?


(Now, in all seriousness, how did Vegeta destroyed the HTC?)
 
Well, there goes all of Goku's losses.... On the bright side, Goku'a surpassed ALMOST every single form of Superman and Seiya (kinda sad about surpassing Seiya tho... like them both)
 
AnimeFanboy2916 said:
Well, there goes all of Goku's losses.... On the bright side, Goku'a surpassed ALMOST every single form of Superman and Seiya (kinda sad about surpassing Seiya tho... like them both)
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To be fair, he didn't surpass any more Supermen than he did at 3-A, and Seiya still lolhax/lolblitzes him. But I digress.
 
so just to be clear, this is mean to upgrade vegeta and goku and characters of similar power to "low 2-C" or "at least low 2-C" if we re-interpret old kai's staement from last year
 
Still just watching how this plays out but yes if this upgrade does happen then my worst nightmares have come true as we are going to have to literally ban low 2-C matches with dbs characters because of their non-existent hax.

And seiya still stomps goku even if he becomes low 2-C cause of hax and speed, i know someone will eventually think to do that match.
 
AidenBrooks999 said:
I did not watch the episode.
So:

1) What The?!

2) F*Ck did I miss?


(Now, in all seriousness, how did Vegeta destroyed the HTC?)
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Yes he did, he was training and he blew it up. Also he beat Black into a pulp with EASE.
 
Then they will speed equalize which will end in hax vs attack potence debate pretty much inconclusives also I figured that goku would still loses two seyia because of lol speed blizs and haxes as for superman he can now defeat pre crisi enless you want to say pre time travels before goku uses instant kamehameha wave
 
Ok, still waiting for someone to explain the destruction of the chamber. How did he destroy/escape it? Looking for some context to see if I can support this.

Down for 3-A Or High 3-A based off the Black stomp.
 
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