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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100
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It's kinda useless but heres every appearance of planet Namek in manga.
The 8 is one of the star of planet Namek and the 9 is the destruction of planet namek.
The 8 is one of the star of planet Namek and the 9 is the destruction of planet namek.
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I can try to find the color images if that helps.
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Don't bother
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2, 4, 6 implies big af and align with the meme. They consistent with each other.
1 might be direct evidence of exactly what I said, assuming the cut-off one is a sun on bottom panel. The way it's drawn would corroborate the angle and triangular layout. only thing is it looks like there's a 4th one here.
3 and 5 weird, looks almost like planets with the texturing.
Basically like 50/50 sun sized shots and vague or inconsistent shots. Not sure how to treat this tbh.
1 might be direct evidence of exactly what I said, assuming the cut-off one is a sun on bottom panel. The way it's drawn would corroborate the angle and triangular layout. only thing is it looks like there's a 4th one here.
3 and 5 weird, looks almost like planets with the texturing.
Basically like 50/50 sun sized shots and vague or inconsistent shots. Not sure how to treat this tbh.
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RVR thread is quite interesting
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So it's a normal sun, a red dwarf and a green sun?
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The explosion is small in the 4 Pic.
The second was frieza holding back so Its understable
The second was frieza holding back so Its understable
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Personally I don't see a lot of useful consistency in the pics there for detirmining Namek's size.
(And if we're being the teensiest bit realistic, a bigger-than-stars sized Namek would have enough gravity to crush Bulma flat)
(And if we're being the teensiest bit realistic, a bigger-than-stars sized Namek would have enough gravity to crush Bulma flat)
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The colored scans aren't actually canon, they're like every other shueisha colored manga.
They're neat to look at, and might help in grasping stuff, but any colors are just made up by some dudes, all we know is that they suns, and that's about it.
They're neat to look at, and might help in grasping stuff, but any colors are just made up by some dudes, all we know is that they suns, and that's about it.
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I do, looks 50/50. Some shots identical, some not.
Supreme Kai planet has stars orbiting it explicitly, and Mr. Satan is just fine.
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I'm sorry Bulma is just that girl.
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Also like, DBZ dog, we got a planet the size of my backyard with 10g, apparently an average planet eclipses earth yet most we know have 1g gravity bar plane vegeta, namek having 3 suns in and of itself doesnt make sense given how orbits work and suns work, like, if namek is a normal planet, that means it's orbiting a sun, in which case, it cant have a complete day cycle as it'd move out of the position of other suns as it moves along one of the three. That, or Namek would be torn apart by having 3 suns gravitational pull constantly pulling at it each as it attempts to orbit them.
Tbh the more I think about it, the more I'm like what if the suns orbit Namek, not Namek orbiting them? Would unironically make the most sense and align with several shots
Tbh the more I think about it, the more I'm like what if the suns orbit Namek, not Namek orbiting them? Would unironically make the most sense and align with several shots
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They had an interview with an expert.Also like, DBZ dog, we got a planet the size of my backyard with 10g, apparently an average planet eclipses earth yet most we know have 1g gravity bar plane vegeta, namek having 3 suns in and of itself doesnt make sense given how orbits work and suns work, like, if namek is a normal planet, that means it's orbiting a sun, in which case, it cant have a complete day cycle as it'd move out of the position of other suns as it moves along one of the three. That, or Namek would be torn apart by having 3 suns gravitational pull constantly pulling at it each as it attempts to orbit them.
Tbh the more I think about it, the more I'm like what if the suns orbit Namek, not Namek orbiting them? Would unironically make the most sense and align with several shots
[Could Humans Survive on Planet Namek? We Asked an Expert to Tell Us About the Planet's Ecosystem] | DRAGON BALL OFFICIAL SITE
Bulma, Gohan, and Krillin ventured far out into space to Planet
1. Multiple sun can revolve around a planet
2. There must a day/night cycle.
3. It should revolve in a specific way, not how it's shown in the Manga.
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Not withstanding his opinion ultimately aint canon at all and thus, ultimately ain't usable as evidence for, or against.
"—Oh, so there are worlds like Planet Namek out there! Because of all those suns it never gets dark on Planet Namek, but is that part realistic, too?
Sekine: Oh, that aspect is a bit far-fetched on a physical level. In systems with more than one sun, the smaller suns always orbit the largest sun.
Furthermore, the planets in that system would then orbit the suns, so no matter how many suns there are, the planets would still experience night at some point."
Does corroborate with what I was saying, it would actually be impossible as it would experience night eventually due to orbiting one such sun, that, or torn apart if each sun is equally contributing, kinda leading to, what if the suns orbit Namek instead? Kinda unrealistic but the very premise is, and when we have wild shit like the supreme kai planet which is asinine, idk, maybe.
Personally im 50/50, maybe as a high end? Like "possibly"? But then again, idk if this would even affect anything except Moro, who's like, low 2-C or some shit, shit like Frieza nuking the core or tanking it might not be calculable if we don't know how big said core is, or how close to the epicenter he was.
"—Oh, so there are worlds like Planet Namek out there! Because of all those suns it never gets dark on Planet Namek, but is that part realistic, too?
Sekine: Oh, that aspect is a bit far-fetched on a physical level. In systems with more than one sun, the smaller suns always orbit the largest sun.
Furthermore, the planets in that system would then orbit the suns, so no matter how many suns there are, the planets would still experience night at some point."
Does corroborate with what I was saying, it would actually be impossible as it would experience night eventually due to orbiting one such sun, that, or torn apart if each sun is equally contributing, kinda leading to, what if the suns orbit Namek instead? Kinda unrealistic but the very premise is, and when we have wild shit like the supreme kai planet which is asinine, idk, maybe.
Personally im 50/50, maybe as a high end? Like "possibly"? But then again, idk if this would even affect anything except Moro, who's like, low 2-C or some shit, shit like Frieza nuking the core or tanking it might not be calculable if we don't know how big said core is, or how close to the epicenter he was.
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I considered this as well, couldn't its GBE be high enough that it can withstand 3 suns pulling it in different directions?
The option of the suns orbitting around it, would just make it even weirder to calculate
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Nah, because at that point, the suns themselves still have to move.
Tbh not really, it'd just be a huge af planet we can pixel scale directly off of. I mean it'd be weird, but DBZ has worse shit so shrug.
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So in the end, they'd still be orbitting round it
Based on its gravity, its not super dense
So, in this case, i'd assume the conservative assumption would be that it's at least, as large as the largest of the suns, which I assume we'd simply equate to our own star, we can use the SD calculator to use the diameter and 1g gravity to get the GBE
Another end could simply calculate the minimum GBE it would need to withstand 3 suns at once and see how the values line up?
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Yes, restore the Universes AFTER they got erased by Zeno, what don't qualifies as in-wiki definition of restoration
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that does make sense and the planet is probably tidally locked as well although such planets shouldn’t be able to survive normally
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Can we do anything with density of planet since planet namek being in three star system and wouldn't getting ripped apart to shreds would mean that it has a very high density
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to be honest even if you think their stars are just red dwarf stars that still makes Namek extremely huge especially for a rocky planet. even attempting to destroy it would take way too much energy
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Who knows, maybe they're three tiny suns with weak gravity.
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okay this is actually surprisingly consistent lmao
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no you need a minimum amount of gravity to become a star or else they’d be what we call “brown dwarfs” or “super-jupiter” type planets. it’s actually impossible for them to be smaller than a red dwarf star unless it’s stated somewhere
and if we assume they’re at least red dwarf stars (doesn’t look like it but eh) then Namek is extremely large by that measure
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When Super shenron brought back those erased, he also placed them back onto their universes, so it wasn't like a restorative do-over either
The combined gravitational force of 3 stars on the planet will need to be done first, also, GBE would be the more appropriate value of resisting being pulled apart by the suns iirc, not average density
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IMO using a size approximation works better here since we already know it was an earth-like gravity
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Well, judging by the fact that Bulma isn't baked upon standing on the surface, I am assuming the distance to the suns in the sky is at least the same as Earth to our sun, that may be useful
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What do you guys think of these
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That's kinda toooo big? 
It's fiction so
(it's doesn't matter)
It's fiction so
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I think it would be good, shown as it would give a good update to Dragon Ball based on facts shown within the work.
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huh this is actually not bad but I feel like whoever did this didn’t have the scans that we had here to justify the size further but the conclusion seems about right to me. Eyeballing it I was thinking it could be around small star level GBE too although idk if we should use the manga or Kai version for busting it
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it’s actually lowballed because normally you wouldn’t assume those stars to be red dwarf stars but instead sun-like main sequence/G-sequence stars. this is more so a conservative calc if anythingThat's kinda toooo big?
It's fiction so
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I Mean, we don't use the Piccolo moon busting from kai, so ig we wouldn't use the namek bust as well
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ngl that kinda sucks because the way we currently calc it we don’t even take into account minimum visual acuity
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It's interesting, not sure this many calculation steps will be accepted tho, but then again, he didn't have as many shots of the planet
But tbh, in almost every shot, namek seems bigger than the stars around it
Kai is only used for time frame, actual feat uses the manga
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Yeah I gotta say this is surprisingly consistent lmao
I guess we can use the timeframe for Kai then
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pretty much makes dodoria’s statement about namek’s size a load of crap.
funny thing is even the low end of that calc is above Cell’s solar system busting calc and would probably push manga DBZ into 4-A
also if the size does get to around star sized then it might be worth doing some speed calcs too for the characters who traversed Namek
funny thing is even the low end of that calc is above Cell’s solar system busting calc and would probably push manga DBZ into 4-A
also if the size does get to around star sized then it might be worth doing some speed calcs too for the characters who traversed Namek
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