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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

Accelerated_Evolution said:
Piccolo Moon feat downgrade let´s goooo
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If I do this in general it will attack me, there is no way I will downgrade Piccolo, although I can see that Akira wanted to resolve some things in the work by changing the events in this game, It looks like he worked directly on this game.

So I can say that Dragon Ball has taken a retcon
 
LuffyRuffy46307 said:
If I do this in general it will attack me, there is no way I will downgrade Piccolo, although I can see that Akira wanted to resolve some things in the work by changing the events in this game, It looks like he worked directly on this game.

So I can say that Dragon Ball has taken a retcon
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Apologies if this is the wrong place to ask it (Title says "Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread", & this is more about DB/DBZ than DBS.), but I Googled a bit & couldn't find answers:

What is an in-universe reason why infant Goku's ship got him to Earth faster than the 1 year it took Vegeta or Nappa's ships?

The answer that seems obvious, is not in-universe: It's "Plot-Induced Stupidity"/Authors neglected/Authors can't do math.

Goku was an infant (If not newborn, IIRC.) when he was sent, & I don't recall any indication more than a year passed before his ship crashed on Earth & Grandpa Gohan found him.

A speculative answer might say that Saiyans set the pods for their immature invaders to have awful conditions so that:
1. The ship spends more resources on getting to the target ASAP than on silly stuff like "life support".
& 2. The young saiyan's already aggressive & malleable saiyan biological "programming" kicks in from the poor conditions followed by a crash's rude awakening & a sudden food supply to get it to go berserk & eat & kill everything sooner rather than later.

But it's worth getting a second opinion & seeing if anyone else has any other info on the matter.

Pardon any bother, please, all.
 
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I'm not sure it was ever explained in universe. The only thought I really have about that is that it might've unironically been a much shorter distance to travel from Vegeta to Earth vs where Vegeta and Nappa were.

Ultimately headcanon, but that's what'd make the most sense to me unless it WAS stated somewhere.
 
ZetaMarishi said:
I'm not sure it was ever explained in universe. The only thought I really have about that is that it might've unironically been a much shorter distance to travel from Vegeta to Earth vs where Vegeta and Nappa were.

Ultimately headcanon, but that's what'd make the most sense to me unless it WAS stated somewhere.
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Do we know where Vegeta/Nappa where (In any canon?) when Piccolo mentioned the Dragon Balls?
 
Looking it up:

dragonball.fandom.com

The Needs of the Many

"The Needs of the Many" (さようなら孫そん悟ご空くう, Sayōnara Son Gokū, lit. "Farewell, Son Goku") is the tenth chapter of Dragon Ball Z and the two hundred fourth overall chapter of the Dragon Ball manga. The cover of this chapter is Goku standing in a plain white area, with only his shadow showing, looking...
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BTW, the way this chapter's summary is worded is hilarious:

"Meanwhile, far-off in space… Some bald mustached alien with another eye device says that Raditz is dead now. There’s also a little alien with an eye device, and wild hair sticking straight up like a treasure troll doll. Both are wearing armor in the same style as Raditz’s. The little alien chews on the arm of an alien he just killed, and the big alien asks what they should do. The little alien thinks about these Dragon Ball things that can grant whatever wish you desire, and the big alien asks if he wants to revive Raditz. The little alien thinks that would be a waste, and says he wants eternal life."

- Partial quote from that very Dragon Ball Fandom Wiki page, lol.

Anyway, we get at least this image about where they are:

Vegeta_debut_1.png


Pardon the low resolution, Fandom won't let me hotlink it at full resolution.

So, seems we know they were on a planet seemingly called Tritek in at least 1 English localization, but unnamed otherwise. Where is it? 1 year of Attack Ball travel away, however far that is....
 
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Roun12 said:
I'm assuming you mean Acausality; no. It's just a mechanic of the verse not an ability for the characters specifically, like Goku Black with the Time Ring.
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I'm not referring to that, but rather that when Z warriors die they do a good deed, they gain a new body and type 1 immortality, without death from disease.

 
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LuffyRuffy46307 said:
I'm not referring to that, but rather that when Z warriors die they do a good deed, they gain a new body and type 1 immortality, without death from disease.
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That's just Type 7 immortality, my guy, and it's ONLY when any Z Warrior has died. So it's not like it's an ability they have normally have except for very specific reasons (That being: they're dead.)
 
The_Unknown_Warrior1 said:
That's just Type 7 immortality, my guy, and it's ONLY when any Z Warrior has died. So it's not like it's an ability they have normally have except for very specific reasons (That being: they're dead.)
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It's not type 7 immortality, it's type 1 immortality, type 7 is just anime that it is mentioned that they can always vote for this dead, but in the manga there is no mention of that, in addition it is mentioned that they they can die if their body is destroyed and their soul will not go to the afterlife if that happens, back in the Majin Buu saga
 
LuffyRuffy46307 said:
Honestly, why does this exist?

Goku (Dragonball Evolution)

I don't think we need to profile this film and it should be deleted
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Why shouldn't we have this profile? Regardless of the quality of the movie, VBW is an indexing wiki at the end of the day and Evolution has enough material and shit to warrant a profile here.

You don't have to like Evolution, I don't like it myself, but there's no reason to delete it
 
The_Unknown_Warrior1 said:
Why shouldn't we have this profile? Regardless of the quality of the movie, VBW is an indexing wiki at the end of the day and Evolution has enough material and shit to warrant a profile here.

You don't have to like Evolution, I don't like it myself, but there's no reason to delete it
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I don't see why there should be a reason for it to exist
 
LuffyRuffy46307 said:
I don't see why there should be a reason for it to exist
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Because it has enough material to it to give it a profile......? It doesn't matter if Evolution is a bad movie or not, all that matters here on the wiki is if it can indexed and tiered or not.

Again I don't like Evolution, but my feelings are irrelevant to a profile's existence here on the wiki. And there's a lot of franchises and characters that would be deleted off the wiki if we were to do things by our emotions instead of facts, so no that alone isn't enough.
 
The_Unknown_Warrior1 said:
Because it has enough material to it to give it a profile......? It doesn't matter if Evolution is a bad movie or not, all that matters here on the wiki is if it can indexed and tiered or not.

Again I don't like Evolution, but my feelings are irrelevant to a profile's existence here on the wiki. And there's a lot of franchises and characters that would be deleted off the wiki if we were to do things by our emotions instead of facts, so no that alone isn't enough.
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I never said that I don't like Dragon Ball Evolution, I even like the film, but I don't see why it should have just one profile.
 
LuffyRuffy46307 said:
I never said that I don't like Dragon Ball Evolution, I even like the film, but I don't see why it should have just one profile.
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I mean to be fair, the Piccolo from Evolution has a profile here on the wiki so it's not only Goku has a profile. But I digress, since Evolution has enough significant information and feats to be indexed here on the wiki then it shall be indexed so again I don't understand why the DBE Goku and Piccolo profiles should be deleted
 
The_Unknown_Warrior1 said:
Stuff like Dragon Ball Kakumei can't be indexed on VBW due to it being a fan made story and not officially made or an original piece of fiction, that's why the FC/OC Wiki exists for such things involving fanfiction like Kakumei
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But Dragon Ball evolution didn't have Akira's hands like Dragon Ball Z or GT to be declared as official, it's more like something that isn't accepted as Dragon Ball by Akira
 
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