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Exactly. And if it's stronger, like, we know that if someone does a planetary feat with 10k PL, someone with 20k PL can do the same. But downscaling? There will be a lot of inconsistency if we try to be linear. I think even the farmer would end up superhuman.
Roshi had a bit more than 100 of PL and could destroy the moon, so a character that has 1 of PL can destroy 1% of the moon? Yeah, that doesn´t make senseHe would, yes. To blow up the moon you simply need to be in the 180-400 range. The farmer is at 5. The Farmer would be like, massively superhuman, under this logic.
Is there any actual scan which says that? The only one I've seen is the one from El Manga Escenario, which doesn't say you need 10K to destroy a planet, but uses 10K being planet buster (basically Vegeta feat) as comparison to 1M. Iirc it was something like "If 10K can destroy a planet, imagine what 1M can do"Any character before Saiyan Saga being planet level is contradicted by the "you need 10.000 of power to destroy a planet" thing
If you needed less than it to destroy a planet the EML would say that number, but it specifically says "If with 10.000 of power you can destroy a planet(...)"Is there any actual scan which says that? The only one I've seen is the one from El Manga Escenario, which doesn't say you need 10K to destroy a planet, but uses 10K being planet buster (basically Vegeta feat) as comparison to 1M. Iirc it was something like "If 10K can destroy a planet, imagine what 1M can do"
Daima definitely won't be bad. It's going to be really good. The reason some people act all pissy over Daima is because they wanted a Z-style plot or DBS 2 and instead got Dragon Ball Babies.Doesn´t matter how bad people say that Daima will be, i will still believe that Toriyama is cooking something good
Eh, that's not necessarily true. I think it might have just said the number that's 1% of a million.If you needed less than it to destroy a planet the EML would say that number, but it specifically says "If with 10.000 of power you can destroy a planet(...)"
If it wasn't retreading a lane ass idea from GT folks would be a lot more optimisticinstead got Dragon Ball Babies.
Even then, it explicitly states the number of PL you need to destroy a planetEh, that's not necessarily true. I think it might have just said the number that's 1% of a million.
I can't wait to see what Toriyama-sensei has been cooking for DaimaDaima definitely won't be bad. It's going to be really good. The reason some people act all pissy over Daima is because they wanted a Z-style plot or DBS 2 and instead got Dragon Ball Babies.
I have heard rumors that Daima might have some brutal fights though. So the Z-crowd might end up pleasantly surprised.
It said that it's possible. That doesn't mean necessary.Even then, it explicitly states the number of PL you need to destroy a planet
it says a 10k BP can destroy a planet it doesn’t say you need a BP of 10k. So, if there were a planetary feat below 10k it wouldn’t be contradicted by the guide.Even then, it explicitly states the number of PL you need to destroy a planet
"planetary feat" = "planetary statement" you meanit says a 10k BP can destroy a planet it doesn’t say you need a BP of 10k. So, if there were a planetary feat below 10k it wouldn’t be contradicted by the guide.
I can translate and understand a bit of spanish (principally due to how similar it is in comparison to portuguese), btw, this doesn´t mean much tbhAlso, Spanish speakers told me it’s a statement to compare zeroes since the original statement talks about how a BP 10k can destroy a planet imagine what a BP of 1m can do. (In reference to 2nd form frieza)
I never denied that a BP of 10k+ is enough to destroy a planet. I‘m just saying that doesn’t mean it’s the bare minimum to do so, but the statement does let us know that it’s the maximum requirement. SSJG Goku can destroy earth, that doesn‘t mean Base Goku can’t."planetary feat" = "planetary statement" you mean
The statement is in line with Vegeta's statement "I will turn the Earth to ashes" and is consistent with the power level showed later in the series.
I can translate and understand a bit of spanish (principally due to how similar it is in comparison to portuguese), btw, this doesn´t mean much tbh
What do you mean?I do think it makes sense for PLs to work linearly upwards but not downwards
That isn't possible. That would still mean 2,000 Farmer Shotguns would wipe the planet.I do think it makes sense for PLs to work linearly upwards but not downwards
Downscaling isn't supported by feats and is contradicted by the fact that 10,000 is required to destroy a planet, yes earth is notated to be small but we have to basis on how small it isThat isn't possible. That would still mean 2,000 Farmer Shotguns would wipe the planet.
yeah, Daima is apparently going to have blood, and I doubt that they'll stay as kids for longDaima definitely won't be bad. It's going to be really good. The reason some people act all pissy over Daima is because they wanted a Z-style plot or DBS 2 and instead got Dragon Ball Babies.
I have heard rumors that Daima might have some brutal fights though. So the Z-crowd might end up pleasantly surprised.
look if we can't use it linearly in upscaling, then we can't use it linearly in downscaling, we either use it linearly or we don't use it linearlyDownscaling isn't supported by feats and is contradicted by the fact that 10,000 is required to destroy a planet, yes earth is notated to be small but we have to basis on how small it is
Idk if y'all realize but PLs were 100% intended to be linear, it's just that it's not because to do that would take extreme calculation which the author doesn't care about.Tbh, PLs can sometimes be used as linear, but this only works with the same character
Do the matchup and find outWhat do you think of Janemba vs Ichigo?
I don't know. But I would expect Hakai to have general soul manipulation to be able to do more things with DBS.What do you think of Janemba vs Ichigo?
Let's give soul manipulation to DB characters, all through kiI don't know. But I would expect Hakai to have general soul manipulation to be able to do more things with DBS.
Does Bleach's soul manipulation have this too? The issue of affecting the soul and mind.
I don't know if this is currently accepted, is there a crt?as well as affecting another timeline according to Beerus
I don't know if it affects the mind, but in Dragon Ball hakai affects the mind, that's why zamasu gained his immortalityDoes Bleach's soul manipulation have this too? The issue of affecting the soul and mind.
No, but we can give it to Beerus, since he only didn't affect zamasu in another timeline because he was wearing the time ring that gives type 1 casualness to the ring's bearer.I don't know if this is currently accepted, is there a crt?
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Of course, we can do something about this, if anyone can help me I can.If the guy on the blog can cook general soul manipulation for Energy of Destruction + 4D, we would have better soul manipulation than Bleach.
Pretty sure Quincies erase everything tooLet's give soul manipulation to DB characters, all through ki
From what I know, hakai is more powerful than any soul manipulation in Bleach, it erases soul, mind and body,as well as affecting another timeline according to Beerus
But on a small scale, not compared to Dragon BallPretty sure Quincies erase everything too
That's not better Soul Manip, that's better AP.But on a small scale, not compared to Dragon Ball
"[Akira Toriyama] is one of the few manga artists who can extract the depth of the battle scene," commented Suzuki, "[The] sense of speed and three-dimensional effect of the battle [used by him in the drawings] makes readers know how the characters fight... Toriyama-sensei's drawing of characters or inanimate objects is amazing! Some of the battle scenes in The Seven Deadly Sins are inspired by Dragon Ball."
I ain't seen Quincy erasing a character who has survived narrative ee beforeThat's not better Soul Manip, that's better AP.
I highly doubt it will compare to hakaiThat's not better Soul Manip, that's better AP.
WowI ain't seen Quincy erasing a character who has survived narrative ee before