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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

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I do think Goku can increase his mastery on Ultra Instinct, like his SDBH counterparts where he can willingly turn into the white hair Ultra Instinct frequently without the needed of extra energy and that Susanoo UI or whatever it's called can be mastered.

About Vegeta, I do think Vegeta could also increase his mastery upon Ultra Ego.
 
NishizumiShiho said:
So, what would happen next? How Goku and Vegeta would catch up to Black Frieza, since they're the 'weakest' out of bunch.
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UI Avatar is blatantly the next step for Goku. Vegeta is still learning Jiren's Explosive Power/Relaxed State thing and also said he was a novice with Ultra Ego. Ultra Ego is also a form that seems to grow stronger as he fights stronger opponents so his power can continually grow.

Tbh as a Freeza fan I don't think he's actually as crazy as people think. The only reason he's ahead of Goku and Vegeta's God techniques is because he has a Time Chamber and they've only barely gotten started with using UI/UE. He could seriously use an upgrade in terms of technique or hax or he'll lag behind again.

Even if it turns out that Black Freeza is just so far beyond them the next logical step would be potara fusing in UI and UE to create an Ultra Vegito. Sure, Freeza could have Spirit Fission but if he can't touch Ultra Vegito then that's irrelevant.
 
CryoTheMayo said:
UI Avatar is blatantly the next step for Goku. Vegeta is still learning Jiren's Explosive Power/Relaxed State thing and also said he was a novice with Ultra Ego. Ultra Ego is also a form that seems to grow stronger as he fights stronger opponents so his power can continually grow.

Tbh as a Freeza fan I don't think he's actually as crazy as people think. The only reason he's ahead of Goku and Vegeta's God techniques is because he has a Time Chamber and they've only barely gotten started with using UI/UE. He could seriously use an upgrade in terms of technique or hax or he'll lag behind again.

Even if it turns out that Black Freeza is just so far beyond them the next logical step would be potara fusing in UI and UE to create an Ultra Vegito. Sure, Freeza could have Spirit Fission but if he can't touch Ultra Vegito then that's irrelevant.
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Yeah, that UI Susanoo would be Goku next step. But it would be cool if he can turned into white hair states without getting super tired like his SDBH counterparts.

And for Ultra Ego, what do you think will happen if Vegeta finally masters it? Will he able to use Hakai properly like Beerus does and encase his body with Hakai energy like GoD Toppo does?
 
NishizumiShiho said:
And for Ultra Ego, what do you think will happen if Vegeta finally masters it? Will he able to use Hakai properly like Beerus does and encase his body with Hakai energy like GoD Toppo does?
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Well, what I find interesting is that Goku's path of Ultra Instinct directly leads him to Angel tier with all of the Angels wielding it. Comparatively no GoD is even remotely Angel-level (with even the strongest GoD, Beerus, being one shot by Whis) and Beerus even encourages Vegeta to prove that GoD techniques are better than Angel techniques. That essentially means Vegeta will eventually enter totally unknown territory where he needs to evolve his GoD powers beyond what any GoD has ever done so he can match Angel-level beings.

How long away is that? Who knows. It is something that should come up eventually though. Vegeta will eventually be the greatest Destruction Energy user simply because he has to be to keep up with Goku's Ultra Instinct.

NishizumiShiho said:
Imagine if Goku and Vegeta fused into Ultra Ego Instinct Vegito but the narrator said 'They're approaching GoD level'
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Right now I think Ultra Vegito would be the only character to reach Beerus-level. It lines up with every Whis statement and matches up with Beerus (a GoD who can use some level of Ultra Instinct).
 
CryoTheMayo said:
Well, what I find interesting is that Goku's path of Ultra Instinct directly leads him to Angel tier with all of the Angels wielding it. Comparatively no GoD is even remotely Angel-level (with even the strongest GoD, Beerus, being one shot by Whis) and Beerus even encourages Vegeta to prove that GoD techniques are better than Angel techniques. That essentially means Vegeta will eventually enter totally unknown territory where he needs to evolve his GoD powers beyond what any GoD has ever done so he can match Angel-level beings.

How long away is that? Who knows. It is something that should come up eventually though. Vegeta will eventually be the greatest Destruction Energy user simply because he has to be to keep up with Goku's Ultra Instinct.


Right now I think Ultra Vegito would be the only character to reach Beerus-level. It lines up with every Whis statement and matches up with Beerus (a GoD who can use some level of Ultra Instinct).
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Didn't Shin stated Blue Vegito from manga already on Beerus level?
 
It seems Daima will truly explore the Demon Realm and the Dragon Team was put under a curse so they will de-aged that even Shenron can't reverse it.

Edit: Daima first minutes or so will have animations and art style similar to that of Z but will gradually changed to what we see on the trailer.

Don't worry, Daima will have blood in it, incase someone want some blood in modern Dragon Ball. The key animator of Daima would be the same team that handle DBS Broly.

90-95% of what we see on trailer are the footage of episode 01 and it seems the episode already done in production.
 
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I mean, when would it be set? Before EoZ? After EoZ? In case it's canon of course. If it's not can we use the stuff there? Also if it's non canon will it be like DBGT?
 
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