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But does it even make sense that the world of the dead is a higher dimension, because it is located outside of the 4D Universe (I don't understand these things, but it would be timely if it were actually accepted here)
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Given the fact that heaven which is as big as living universe completely disappears in its vastness and was stated to have no concept of time also a scan where it was called extradimensional space when goku was racing a kai on bike or smth I think it does but it would never be accepted here not to mention the fact you will get arguments like "it means higher dimension in geometric sense" or hyperboleBut does it even make sense that the world of the dead is a higher dimension, because it is located outside of the 4D Universe (I don't understand these things, but it would be timely if it were actually accepted here)
Pre t.o.p 3 uni, ui goku 6 unihow many universes does db super goku scale to
It would be so timely if this were acceptedGiven the fact that heaven which is as big as living universes completely disappears in its vastness and was stated to have no concept of time also a scan where it was called extradimensional space when goku was racing a kai on bike or smth I think it does but it would never be accepted here not to mention the fact you will get arguments like "it means higher dimension in geometric sense" or hyperbole
bro heaven is NOT as big as living universesGiven the fact that heaven which is as big as living universes completely disappears in its vastness and was stated to have no concept of time also a scan where it was called extradimensional space when goku was racing a kai on bike or smth I think it does but it would never be accepted here not to mention the fact you will get arguments like "it means higher dimension in geometric sense" or hyperbole
iirc we accept heaven is as big as the universebro heaven is NOT as big as living universes
i know but why does it look like thatiirc we accept heaven is as big as the universe
That same argument again, robot?bro heaven is NOT as big as living universes
i use it as a troll argumentThat same argument again, robot?
Don't even try it.Ultima_Reality said:"And this, itself, leads us to another possible counterpoint: The fact that a "lack" of dimensionality does not necessarily translate to superiority over dimensionality. That I refer to this as a fact should already inform the you that I don't disagree with this claim, and in fact it is objectively unrelated to this point, as we are talking about actual superiority over dimensionality, not simply an absence of it."
Artistic representation kazi in his one video said that since heaven is 99% of mass destroying it would be equal to billions of times greater than destroying observable universe and I was like whati know but why does it look like that
Lol, but is there a planet that is the size of the Universe too or is it just DB?i use it as a troll argument
(no one can refute it )
For time travel yea, bot not time related abilities being used inside the CoTI think vieth answered that
I mean time power users can use time power thereFor time travel yea, bot not time related abilities being used inside the CoT
When he fought her, he basically won by circumventing the kaioshin's predictions of time, demonstrating that having vision of the future doesn't work on him.
Wouldn't that give Goku some casualness?
I predict a fight against YhwachGoku is just to fast for aeos to a point that precog doesn't help her
By using cc goku, yhwach would looseI predict a fight against Yhwach
ReallyBy using cc goku, yhwach would loose
Manipulate power that created time I guess I am not sure tbh all I know time power is conceptualBut do did those Time Power uses manipulate time to use their power, or manipulate the power that created time.
Time power comes from Time Energy that created and sustains Time itselfBut do did those Time Power uses manipulate time to use their power, or manipulate the power that created time.
You just showed an image with nothing of scale for reference……i use it as a troll argument
(no one can refute it )
At most those scans you showed are 4-5D, they only state transcendental to the living worlds dimensionality, nothing about it lacking dimensionality outrightA non-dimensional physiology lacks the very properties of a dimensional thing, so something that is non-dimensional purely due to it's superiority over dimensionality is 1-A. So the Afterlife which "transcends dimensions", would be on the "superiority" bit and not the "alienness" bit, the problem then lies in what dimensions in this context means.
Dimensions, as repeatedly used in both daizenshuu and Dragon Ball is a reference to realms and universes, however, if we assume dimensions here to be a reference to dimensionality as a whole, then the Afterlife would transcend them, and would definitely have no dimensional property. So it's between Low 1-C and 1-A, you can't really get any lower with a statement like that.
There is another translation however, that claims a superiority over dimensionality as a whole, which would obviously leave no room for interpretation and be a clear cut case of qualitative superiority, thus 1-A.
Look there are better chances of me becoming a billionaire then getting db to 1a using this arguments on vsbwA non-dimensional physiology lacks the very properties of a dimensional thing, so something that is non-dimensional purely due to it's superiority over dimensionality is 1-A. So the Afterlife which "transcends dimensions", would be on the "superiority" bit and not the "alienness" bit, the problem then lies in what dimensions in this context means.
Dimensions, as repeatedly used in both daizenshuu and Dragon Ball is a reference to realms and universes, however, if we assume dimensions here to be a reference to dimensionality as a whole, then the Afterlife would transcend them, and would definitely have no dimensional property. So it's between Low 1-C and 1-A, you can't really get any lower with a statement like that.
There is another translation however, that claims a superiority over dimensionality as a whole, which would obviously leave no room for interpretation and be a clear cut case of qualitative superiority, thus 1-A.
She said her eyes couldn't follow him tho, same eyes were what she used her analytical technique through, implying that her precog itself failed completelyGoku is just to fast for aeos to a point that precog doesn't help her
Interesting could be the case,but we can see goku has increased his speed followed by her quote that her eyes couldn't follow means she can't even see goku properly moreover react to himShe said her eyes couldn't follow him tho, same eyes were what she used her analytical technique through, implying that her precog itself failed completely
Was afterlife said to be adimensional ? I thought the guidebook just called it dimensionally transcendent?Saying your transcendent by being adimensional is not enough, additional context and explanation to prove it is to the sufficient quantitative level is needed.
Gokuism >Saying your transcendent by being adimensional is not enough, additional context and explanation to prove it is to the sufficient quantitative level is needed.
There is a mention where it is said that the other world lacks the concept of time, it is even mentioned in the manga.A non-dimensional physiology lacks the very properties of a dimensional thing, so something that is non-dimensional purely due to it's superiority over dimensionality is 1-A. So the Afterlife which "transcends dimensions", would be on the "superiority" bit and not the "alienness" bit, the problem then lies in what dimensions in this context means.
Dimensions, as repeatedly used in both daizenshuu and Dragon Ball is a reference to realms and universes, however, if we assume dimensions here to be a reference to dimensionality as a whole, then the Afterlife would transcend them, and would definitely have no dimensional property. So it's between Low 1-C and 1-A, you can't really get any lower with a statement like that.
There is another translation however, that claims a superiority over dimensionality as a whole, which would obviously leave no room for interpretation and be a clear cut case of qualitative superiority, thus 1-A.
The scan does not say that in the other world there is no time in the literal sense.There is a mention where it is said that the other world lacks the concept of time, it is even mentioned in the manga.
Is that something related to this?