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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

2-C post crisis superman is coming
Goku vs Superman round 2 is gonna happen
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Why did you say this, you brought it into existence
 
Apparently Death Battle is doing Goku vs Superman again

Why tho?

I was sure Superman didn't have many changes related to powerscaling within the last decade
 
Death Battle changed their minds in some matchup remakes (take Mario VS Sonic for a example), like, their last fight was 8 years ago, but, considering how they scale Dragon Ball and DC, Goku can´t really win
 
So...realistically it shouldn't compare to DBH
Death Battle's scaling when it comes to DC is VASTLY different from VBW's scaling. Most heralds worth a damn in DB are these Outerversal, Immesurable speed characters that only other Heralds can match. And considering that Death Battle will scale Superman to the higher ends of the spectrum, on top of having the cosmology of DC as way higher then DBH, then it's going to be a shit stomp.

So what tier would he be?
In Death Battle's eyes? Outerversal, Immeasurable Speed, and a shit ton of abilities and hax on Supes' side that will really tip the scales in Clark's favor
 
^This, essentially when Death Battle does research just unlearn (most of) the scaling of VSBW since it's a completely different ball game with Death Battle scaling.

Tl;dr: Pretty much all the high tier Marvel/DC heralds will likely be 1-A with immeasurable speed by default under Death Battle standards.

Anyway I won't discuss this subject here. If possible try to ignore that MU and focus on updating profiles here while waiting for Daima to come out.
 
I would really like to know why vsbattle people like or at least watch deathbattle so much (there is a general discussion)

From what little I saw, they were, to say the least, pretty crazy about some things.
 
I would really like to know why vsbattle people like or at least watch deathbattle so much (there is a general discussion)

From what little I saw, they were, to say the least, pretty crazy about some things.
They make mistakes sometimes (Mario VS Sonic 2, Phoenix VS Raven, Ben 10 VS Green Lantern and etc.), but the episodes are damn good and they have a higher percentage of battles with correct results than wrong results
 
Anyone 1 taps him in DBH lol
If you did use Dragon Ball heroes would Zoom still win


Taking a quote from the Sonic vs Wally Q and A


“DC’s multiverse is also infinite, but is multi-dimensional, with some claims even putting it at infinitely dimensional. And each universe within the infinite multiverse is subject to an infinite number of alternate universes differentiated by branching timelines. So an infinity of infinity. This is known as the metaverse. This is all contained within the Bleed, below the Speed Force, as evidenced by Grant Morrison’s cosmology map. Here are some extra sources that explain it all in greater detail:






So the short answer is it might be closer, but Goku Black would proooooobably still lose. Even in Xenoverse/Heroes the most you can really argue for is multiversal+, with maybe 1 dimension on top of that with some levity(and it honestly takes waaaay more steps to get to that point than DC). DC’s multiverse is much larger in comparison and frankly Zoom would still be stronger if you decide to take dimensional tiering seriously, because of the bleed. Not to mention Zoom has far more “incalculable” speed feats than you can possibly argue for heroes(which has maybe one or two feats, which are contested).
By a research btw
 
If you did use Dragon Ball heroes would Zoom still win


Taking a quote from the Sonic vs Wally Q and A


“DC’s multiverse is also infinite, but is multi-dimensional, with some claims even putting it at infinitely dimensional. And each universe within the infinite multiverse is subject to an infinite number of alternate universes differentiated by branching timelines. So an infinity of infinity. This is known as the metaverse. This is all contained within the Bleed, below the Speed Force, as evidenced by Grant Morrison’s cosmology map. Here are some extra sources that explain it all in greater detail:






So the short answer is it might be closer, but Goku Black would proooooobably still lose. Even in Xenoverse/Heroes the most you can really argue for is multiversal+, with maybe 1 dimension on top of that with some levity(and it honestly takes waaaay more steps to get to that point than DC). DC’s multiverse is much larger in comparison and frankly Zoom would still be stronger if you decide to take dimensional tiering seriously, because of the bleed. Not to mention Zoom has far more “incalculable” speed feats than you can possibly argue for heroes(which has maybe one or two feats, which are contested).
By a research btw

Hadn't the DC multiverse been downgraded to 5D only?
 
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