Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

[Padaruyos]

I look forward to the shit storm happening tomorrow, but I'll have to sleep now, bye folks.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Zen'ō himself uses his Ki

According to ******* what?
According to who?
Ki materializes into energy blasts.
Zen-Oh remotely erases targets on a whim.
Explain to me where Ki comes in.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Omega calm down, we know how worried you are

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

According to ******* what?
According to who?
Ki materializes into energy blasts.
Zen-Oh remotely erases targets on a whim.
Explain to me where Ki comes in.

It looks like it was censored by Wiki

 

[Nullflowerblush]

What is going on with the pages?

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

Do you really think glass is serious?

Speaking of grace period although it's not an official rule here (iirc), I believe it's common respect for users to wait awhile before making new CRTs for a verse (usually "debunks") that had major CRT recently go through to avoid burning out supporters and mods.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

DB update!!!

 

[Fezzih_007]

What is going on with the pages?

What you mean?

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Every time I look, there are, like, three new pages within the span of five minutes. Are they shorter now?

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Every time I look, there are, like, three new pages within the span of five minutes. Are they shorter now?

Null DB tier 1

 

[Nullflowerblush]

It was a yes or no question.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

You can shoot me, I made an unnecessary comment.

 

[Maizesoup]

Are they shorter now?

Yes. Forum went from 100 posts per page to 40.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

The Forum has been getting screwed lately, eh?

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Now it all makes sense, I felt like I was getting smaller and smaller

 

[RedReaper616]

Every time I look, there are, like, three new pages within the span of five minutes. Are they shorter now?

Yes, the Pages have gone from 100 Posts to 40.

2) I agree with Null. There seems to be this massive disconnect. Zeno is NOT physically powerful, nor is it EVER implied he uses Ki. He is the strongest because his HAX (disconnected from any level of typical power) exceeds ALL. Goku can punch, move, etc. higher than Zeno, but Zeno can erase anything and everything. No exceptions.

And according to Shin, Zeno CAN’T be defeated or killed. So he’s this unchanging unkillable super-destroyer child entity. There’s no UES involved, and any statements on Zeno’s power are in relation to his existence and existence erasure, not any standard level of power.

In that same vein, Super Shenron being able to do anything, while true (he even reversed/brought back Zeno’s victims, who were totally erased and removed from the cycle of reincarnation/life and death via having their souls absolutely annihilated), doesn’t mean much. At best I’d say he’d get a possibly.

 

[Omegabronic]

Omega calm down, we know how worried you are

did you...........did you just confused me with Null? dude, are you ok?

 

[Brogeefrong]

what if i made a vs thread, and put it on hold and then discuss when the dbh are ready

 

[Omegabronic]

Every time I look, there are, like, three new pages within the span of five minutes. Are they shorter now?

yeah, 40 messages per page

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

did you...........did you just confused me with Null? dude, are you ok?

Really was your name appeared here and left unintentionally, Omega

 

[Phsccarvalho]

what if i made a vs thread, and put it on hold and then discuss when the dbh are ready

Dude, don't do that.

There is still a lot to be seen, possible downgrades, etc.

Doing a VS now will not attract anything good.

And it would probably divide the attention of DB supporters.

So don't do that.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Really, now we're only going to apply those who scale with timeline, for example Zen'ō, Arale, and other things will be discussed later.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

It's funny how Geor and Pein can't come up with a single line that fits their weird pattern of "time has to go in different/orthogonal directions" "A statement about 4D snapshot is needed"

Fortunately, there are some staff members who do not agree on a standard that does not fit into any verse.

 

[Skarfz]

Y'all cant wait one second and y'all already posting DBH against every single character on this wiki.

 

[RedReaper616]

…
We said NO VERSUS THREADS-

 

[ProfectusInfinity]

This thread aged like wine.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

…
We said NO VERSUS THREADS-

Everyone knows that one day or the same day that this is applied, someone will try to do a downgrade. Or when the staff crt will be completed.

But for some reason they want to make Matches.

I'll be surprised if they listen and don't match.

 

[AwkguyDB]

This thread aged like wine.

Hasty knew all along

 

[Skarfz]

It's funny how Geor and Pein can't come up with a single line that fits their weird pattern of "time has to go in different/orthogonal directions" "A statement about 4D snapshot is needed"

Fortunately, there are some staff members who do not agree on a standard that does not fit into any verse.

Literally no verse will qualify with these goofy standards lol.
Writers care about storytelling, not a bunch of mathematics buster edgelords

 

[Huesito88]

Literally no verse will qualify with these goofy standards lol.
Writers care about storytelling, not a bunch of mathematics buster edgelords

But Suggversal

 

[Vzearr]

Can it be added now ?

 

[Killerdrone123]

Wth more wait

 

[ProfectusInfinity]

I can't believe the spite and derailing succeeded... looks like we have to wait for DDT.

 

[AwkguyDB]

WHAT

 

[Vzearr]

I can't believe the spite and derailing succeeded... looks like we have to wait for DDT.

Pain...

 

[Skarfz]

Thats Peinfull.

 

[CryoTheMayo]

that is what would have been inferred, i say that it falls under contradiction

No.

i am not arguing against Low 1-C Super Shenron, you are trying to say that he is bellow zeno, but the argument you are using also implies that he is superior

Then what are you arguing against? This started with you asking why Super Shenron would scale. I answered that question and then you started going on about how Zeno is above Super Shenron. All I have done is reconcile the two statements.

Either 1) Super Shenron is above Zeno and is Low 1-C or 2) Super Shenron is not above Zeno but is still Low 1-C because a timeline buster states it can do anything, which should include timeline busting.

if you use that then you can't use the "No one can beat Zeno" argument, as someone would be able to beat him

Okay?

but isn't the basis of your argument that he doesn't have one aka he can do anything?

No?

you can't simustaneously say that Super Shenron can do anything while saying that there is someone above him, it doesn't make sense

You absolutely can. It just translates as "They can do anything but effect Zeno."

one would set a limit making it so that he can't do anything, these two statements are contradictory to one another

Again, they aren't contradictory.

i am arguing that for you to use one of these statements, you have to ignore the other, since they are contradictory to one another, it becomes circular scaling

It doesn't. Because once again the only limitation placed anywhere is that Zeno is above Super Shenron. That doesn't exclude Super Shenron from being Low 1-C.

Timeline busting is a thing presented in the narrative prior to the ToP. Zeno states Super Shenron can do anything. Ergo Super Shenron can timeline bust. The argument over Zeno vs Super Shenron is irrelevant.

 

[Spinoirr]

We're probably getting beast Gohan this chapter, idk when super hero arc will end this chapter or next

 

[Phsccarvalho]

According to the time DT responds to things.

A week from now.

 

[segetero]

Literally no verse will qualify with these goofy standards lol.
Writers care about storytelling, not a bunch of mathematics buster edgelords

And that is why authors are L Bozos, stories should be math text books with fight scenes. /j