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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100
- Thread starter Warren_Valion
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Alright, I'm stupid, so please correct me if I'm wrong, but this is my understanding of DragonBall cosmology.
=>Physical universe (stated to be endlessly expanding, so infinite?).
=>Said physical universe is apart of a larger macrocosm (U7) that consists of dimensions like the afterlife and the wider cosmos (infinite?).
=>Said macrocosm is apart of a 12 macrocosm set
=>Said 12 set is apart of higher dimension that makes up a timeline
=>infinite timelines
And this qualifies for tier 1?
Did I get it right?
=>Physical universe (stated to be endlessly expanding, so infinite?).
=>Said physical universe is apart of a larger macrocosm (U7) that consists of dimensions like the afterlife and the wider cosmos (infinite?).
=>Said macrocosm is apart of a 12 macrocosm set
=>Said 12 set is apart of higher dimension that makes up a timeline
=>infinite timelines
And this qualifies for tier 1?
Did I get it right?
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Exactly
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About the infinite universe was demoted
Serlock_Holmes
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A single timeline qualifies for tier 1. Also as far as I know there aren't infinite of them. Also the universe isn't infinite.
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Infinite Zamasu may scale as well, assuming he corrupted the entire timeline
I hear arale may scale too
Magicomethkuon
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IZ was corrupting the timeline of FTrunk's Universe Seven, which is 4D. Unless I was blind while watching the end of that Arc and it was said anywhere that he was eating away at the greater multiverse's time. He was spreading to others so maybe he could have gone there but Zeno ended that before any confirmation.
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Good luck Arale, she climbs directly with Tori-bot
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The physical universe or the Macrocosm isn't infinite? Or are both not infinite?
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Only with Universe 7 itself, but it could be argued that it could have taken over the full line after going to the past
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Both aren´t infinite
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Both are no more, although we still have DB directors stating that the infinite Universe and the afterlife are also, this for Toei version, But if I mention it here, everyone will fall and step on me, lol
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The reason why I said he may scale is that he spread into the current timeline from the future one which may suggest he had infected the other one for him to spread further
Zeno having to Nike the entire timeline, mot just the macrocasms or the multiverse but everything, including his own realm, leaving him alone may also cede to it, but it's just a hypothesis
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5-D based on that thread
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5d, unless they can prove crack of time being 6D
Serlock_Holmes
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Didn't he already nearly move to the original timeline?
Here his face is shown projecting to the original timeline's space.
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Guys, before you try anything funny...no, Infinite Zamasu is only accepted to have merged with U7.
He does not scale.
He does not scale.
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So what's the consensus on the size then? Standard physical universe + extra dimensions?
Serlock_Holmes
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That's weird though. Given he was seen in the timeline's space he should have reached the main timeline.
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They are already trying lmao
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If you try scaling anything beyond Zen'o and Super Shenron in DBS to Low 1-C (I.E Low 1-C Infinite Zamasu and hence a LOT of the ToP cast), then you're pushing your luck and basically asking for someone to make downgrade threads (regardless of whether you are right or wrong, have a little nous!)
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Really, I think we now have more proof that he could scale with the timeline.
Magicomethkuon
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Unfortunately Zeno is a psychopath who would do that on a whim anyways.
Yeah but the process was never complete, and that could be just range. Although, I think this heavily upgrades IZ's range at the very least since he was spreading from one higher timeline to another.
Serlock_Holmes
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Nah he obviously doesn't have Low 1-c power. He would have Low 1-c range and durability though and this would make sense given zeno was needed.
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This.
Infinite Zamasu merged only with U7, a small part of the timeline, so he doesn't scale.
Don't try anything funny. Thanks.
Serlock_Holmes
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As I said it wouldn't it be both range and durability? It's for sure not Dc as everyone tanked his blasts, but Zeno was needed to erase him. And considering that this thing comes from the Super Dragon balls it makes perfect sense.
Now that I think about it Zamasu would have to spread to the main timeline, infect it, infect the space space between timelines to even begin showing in the main one. So his range may very well be ridiculous.
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Exactly, at best it would be low 1-C range, but even that may not be the case. It has been tried multiple times for zamasu to scale to the multiverse overtime, but as such, has been rejected.
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It's none of these.
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Yes (at least from what i know)
Serlock_Holmes
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That's kinda weird considering his effects were seen in a different timeline which is now separate b a 5-D structure.
Serlock_Holmes
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I think Heaven is much bigger, but better hear it from someone else.
Serlock_Holmes
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You can try something for manga. But even then it would be a likely. The anime has nothing though. Also I still stand by IZ having at least possibly low 1-c range and durability. Also Zeno killed Grand Priest in the future possibly so eh too shaky. I'm against it personally.
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It's a shame this isn't accepted, even though he's talking about Toei
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Unfortunately doesn't matter, the feat is partial, and so doesn't warrant any kind of upgrade.
Serlock_Holmes
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Still seems weird to me, but ok.
Magicomethkuon
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I agree that all others are a logical leap, but an argument could be made that range is real. He was already showing signs in the other timeline moments before Zeno did the Thanos trend. So the feat of reaching things across different 5-D space is there, and would have grown if not for his sudden demise.
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When was manga GP said to be above zeno? He was called the strongest fighter iirc
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