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Please elaborate a little more on that?
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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100
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Serlock_Holmes
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If multipliers are accepted then infinite ki=speed would be accepted.
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He probably means that because certain SSJ forms are treated as quite literally infinite jumps in power (Base Goku to SSB Goku, 3U vs 6U), the wiki could allow that,
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If only the gap between Tier 4 and 2 wasn't treated as finite.
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We also use hyperboles to say that it is infinite
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He’s just speaking about their growth potential.
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I'm connected, bro, but we don't use it in any way to give it some speed like this, although I consider better achievements than using quotes
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If that happened then by definition DBS would jump to infinite speed, so would any other verse that has such large jumps in power. That would lead to an inflation in speed stats, that’s why finite jumps in strength are accepted as being able to jump infinities in power.
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I don't know if you noticed, but you are at risk of suffering a ban, I strongly recommend that you apologize or say that you will change ( I also think you should comment on what you did there)
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Seems fair
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I've been going through this several times and the site is so heavy (it takes about 4 minutes for me to enter)
Hasty12345
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Same for me
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I'll laugh if it happens
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Fezzih_007
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Hades
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Hades in the anime is very beautiful (unlike his art in the manga which is different)
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Theres a decent amount in the toei anime Z
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I have some quotes about
Nullflowerblush
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Teleportation Zone.
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I believe this should be enough, where to say that the teleportation goes to the location instantly
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IMO it always was valid. The barrier statement establishes a 2x difference can force battles into entire paradigm shifts. Then you have fights like Vegeta Vs Dodoria, where Vegeta was only 2K above in PL and thrashing Dodoria and was maintaining a certifiable advantage against Zarbon Pre transformation. Also, a lot of the guides say that Gohan was going “all out” the (1) entire (2) time (3), not holding back whatsoever when he was fighting normal Perfect Cell or the Jrs. and while Cell was more powerful than Goku, he wasn’t unreasonably so. It’s made PRETTY clear that Goku was incredibly close to Cell’s Level.
So for comparison’s sake it’s made clear (at least to me) that Goku was only decent percentages of Cell’s power, which further substantiates the fraction-like power amplification comparisons they make.
Goku is close to but not as strong as Cell, and Cell isn’t as as strong as Gohan, but can’t be defined because Gohan literally wasn’t holding back whatsoever, Super Perfect Cell was around to or slightly above Gohan, and Gohan + Goku (Whether you think it’s advice or actual amp) is higher than SP.Cell.
On top of all that, while YES, Gohan’s anger is his vessel into reaching potential is technically different than what Vegeta does against Beerus, we also know that Gohan’s potential is essentially a well of almost never ending power, so you can just reasonably deduce his rage was funneling more of his potential outwards than the form naturally gave him. It’s also just not a major leap to assume that they’re similar processes.
And in the Buu Saga Gohan went SSJ2 and yet still was not “as strong as he could have been” had he also been angry, or trained. So there is a distinction made—Just retroactively. So the SSJ2 multiplier seems fine. At least to me.
DivineAura44
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Most people I talk to interpret the scene as a mental amp once they go deeper into it.
DivineAura44
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Are you talking about the one that says you have to be 2x your opponent for barrier to work?
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Yeah, the barrier statement says you need to be at least twice your opponents level to totally nullify an attack like we see with a barrier.
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instantaneous doesn't necessarily mean 0 time, so it would have to be more specific
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You're exaggerating, an anime would never explain these things, and I really doubt something like that has an explanation
Tell me a teleport that has this?
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Even if they scaled to the IT it'd be a massive outlier so... kek
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how was 2x ssj2 and 4x ssj3 considered a outlier lol
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Hades is kil
No
No
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Not really, if we’re talking Toei Goku. It’d just be like “Infinite Within IT Dimension,” and then MFTL+ normally. Goku and Cooler only achieved that speed via that Dimension, and Vegeta actively can’t react to them despite being Goku’s equal.
For Super Goku? Ehhh, probably an outlier, yeah. Granolah out moved “Faster IT” twice and then Goku fought a stronger and faster Gas, but we clearly see that his IT is able to make him appear to match Goku mid fight even though he vanished explicitly after by a few panels.
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You fool, his instant transmission got instanter.
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Anyways, Hades is now in Brazil, nobody told him only verse opponents and mods get away with that kind of behavior. RIP 1895-2023
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Yep. Somehow, that is literally what happened. Fiction man…fiction.
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Narratively, causality and reason are kinda just suggestions to the cast at this point.
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Dmc characters have immeasurable speed for a mention similar to this one.
Fax, they always used the word "dimension" out of context to wank dc to infinite dimensional, and it turns out that dc cosmology is not even outerversal as was believed.
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