Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

[LuffyRuffy46307]

that is not the same thing at all, also that is dimensional travel since it went from one space to another, so it isn't a quantifiable speed feat in the first place, also that is not much relevant to what i


he said that he meant that for characterization specifically, not for feats of power or anything of the like
https://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/wired-japan-1997-akira-toriyama-interview

Did you really read what I said? It seems not, the attack did not go to another dimension, but to outer space, where Galaxies, planets, and stars are located.

Where is dimensional travel? Lol, "the energy crossed the planet and went into space", and not into other planes, I guess you don't have much knowledge about dimensional travel and what I'm really talking about.

In the speech Akira toriyama talks about quotes specifically, he doesn't waste his time with useless things. What we talked about, DB does not work with hyperboles about destruction.

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

@godofice Why the hell did you add "at least" to Broly's Legendary Super Saiyan key?

If there's no possibility of him having a rating higher than High 3-A then there is no reason to have "at least" in his rating

That is exactly why I removed it

 

[TheGodOfICE777]

@godofice Why the hell did you add "at least" to Broly's Legendary Super Saiyan key?

If there's no possibility of him having a rating higher than High 3-A then there is no reason to have "at least" in his rating

That is exactly why I removed it

because he already had atleast it doesn’t necessaeily mean he should be a higher tier it’s just hes high 3-A at the minimum Ion see an issue with it

 

[Omegabronic]

Did you really read what I said? It seems not, the attack did not go to another dimension, but to outer space, where Galaxies, planets, and stars are located.

i did, i assume that you were talking about the spirit bomb at the end since you didn't told me what you were refering to

Where is dimensional travel? Lol, "the energy crossed the planet and went into space", and not into other planes, I guess you don't have much knowledge about dimensional travel and what I'm really talking about.

you never said what you were talking about so..... that's on you lol

In the speech Akira toriyama talks about quotes specifically, he doesn't waste his time with useless things.

nope:
"If you're going to go out and say something, then do something that further strengthens the characterization, is what I mean."
he specifies that he was talking about characterization

What we talked about, DB does not work with hyperboles about destruction.

which is irrelevant since this is not a destruction feat in the first place

 

[Omegabronic]

because he already had atleast it doesn’t necessaeily mean he should be a higher tier it’s just hes high 3-A at the minimum Ion see an issue with it

at least implies that they are probably of a higher tier, which is not the case here

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

because he already had atleast it doesn’t necessaeily mean he should be a higher tier it’s just hes high 3-A at the minimum Ion see an issue with it

He only had it because he was previously rated as 3-B with the potential for a higher tier

Currently he doesn't have that so it shouldn't be there

 

[TheGodOfICE777]

at least implies that they are probably of a higher tier, which is not the case here

I’ve seen a lot of profiles with atleast that defintioey don’t have the case for a higher tier

He only had it because he was previously rated as 3-B with the potential for a higher tier

Currently he doesn't have that so it shouldn't be there

how would be 3-A?

 

[Omegabronic]

I’ve seen a lot of profiles with atleast that defintioey don’t have the case for a higher tier

then change then since they are also wrong for the exact same reason

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

i did, i assume that you were talking about the spirit bomb at the end since you didn't told me what you were refering to


you never said what you were talking about so..... that's on you lol


nope:
"If you're going to go out and say something, then do something that further strengthens the characterization, is what I mean."
he specifies that he was talking about characterization

which is irrelevant since this is not a destruction feat in the first place

Omega, I'm not talking about genkidama lol, but he is specifically talking about the quotes, he doesn't waste his time with useless things, and again, I'm very busy, I don't want to have an endless debate with you , even because you weren't understanding what I'm talking about.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

I’ve seen a lot of profiles with atleast that defintioey don’t have the case for a higher tier

how would be 3-A?

Those cases likely refer to a higher value overall. But omega and marvolous are correct. There's no "at least High 3-A" unless there's a chance they could get into low 2-C.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Those cases likely refer to a higher value overall. But omega and marvolous are correct. There's no "at least High 3-A" unless there's a chance they could get into low 2-C.

That at least thing should be removed, it's on Broly's profile too and several other DB characters.

 

[TheGodOfICE777]

Those cases likely refer to a higher value overall. But omega and marvolous are correct. There's no "at least High 3-A" unless there's a chance they could get into low 2-C.

I see it should be removed then I wasn’t aware so Kratos can be 2-B? I saw him with atleast 2-C possibly higher

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I see it should be removed then I wasn’t aware so Kratos can be 2-B? I saw him with atleast 2-C possibly higher

My dream Kratos is multiversal

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

I see it should be removed then I wasn’t aware so Kratos can be 2-B? I saw him with atleast 2-C possibly higher

Higher into 2-C (in fact, power of hope even had some proof that could qualify for tier 1)

So yes, there is justified

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Higher into 2-C (in fact, power of hope even had some proof that could qualify for tier 1)

So yes, there is justified

If you use the platonic thing, go to Tier 1-A

 

[TheGodOfICE777]

Higher into 2-C (in fact, power of hope even had some proof that could qualify for tier 1)

So yes, there is justified

I see so atleast can’t just Mean higher into a tier?

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

If you use the platonic thing, go to Tier 1-A

Platonism isn't 1-A.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

I see so atleast can’t just Mean higher into a tier?

In the case of High 3-A, no.

 

[TheGodOfICE777]

In the case of High 3-A, no.

ah okay mb then

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Platonism isn't 1-A.

My friends disagree with that, put Shinra to 1-A with that thing lol

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

My friends disagree with that, put Shinra to 1-A with that thing lol

Well, different standards GG. But here, nah, it ain't 1-A. Used to be, tho, but it was complete bs.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Well, different standards GG. But here, nah, it ain't 1-A. Used to be, tho, but it was complete bs.

I think they did well, because this thing is very complicated, my friends taught me about 200 times and until today I don't understand anything about it.

 

[Omegabronic]

Omega, I'm not talking about genkidama lol

You are talking about what then?

but he is specifically talking about the quotes, he doesn't waste his time with useless things

define "useless" since hyperboles ar3 definitely not useless in a narrative sense, they can be used to show greater power or feat while being metaphorical

, and again, I'm very busy, I don't want to have an endless debate with you , even because you weren't understanding what I'm talking about.

Then how about you explain what you are talking about? You said that there is a similar "feat" to the other one you sent in the end of buu saga, but you didn't said what feat it was

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

You are talking about what then?


define "useless" since hyperboles ar3 definitely not useless in a narrative sense, they can be used to show greater power or feat while being metaphorical


Then how about you explain what you are talking about? You said that there is a similar "feat" to the other one you sent in the end of buu saga, but you didn't said what feat it was

I'll send you a scan lol

 

[TiltedFN]

super manga does not scale to the universe crossing stuff like the anime does, so they are pretty much unchanged

why tho

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Btw Ice, the cross-quadrant feats are in fact a problem

There's already infinite galaxies in each quadrant (countless meaning infinite in this context), so any of the feats in which someone crossed quadrants poses the problem Lephyr suggested

And by the way, there's an abundance of cross-quadrant feats

 

[BlastX]

Would it be possible to make a profiles for Brolyverse Gohan? He's the guy who actually shows up the most during it aside from Broly himself and the one who has the most fights aside of him (he shows up in Burn Up!! Hot fight! Fierce Fight! Super Fight! Violent Fight!, Plan To Eradicate The Saiyans and The Dangerous Duo! The Super Warriors can't rest, and he fights in all of them), his story is different due to all the adventures that neither his manga or Toei self goes through...just food for thought.

I argue Goku but he only fights in two of them (Burn Up! Hot Fight! Fierce Fight! Super Fight! Violent Fight! And Plan to Eradicate The Saiyans) while in The Dangerous Duo Super Warriors can't not rest it's ambiguous if he was real or not while in The Super Warrior Defeated, I'm the one who'll win! He only makes a cameo.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I'm referring to this feat here that might further strengthen that feat in the quote where the energy was redirected into space and kept going.

 

[TheGodOfICE777]

Btw Ice, the cross-quadrant feats are in fact a problem

There's already infinite galaxies in each quadrant (countless meaning infinite in this context), so any of the feats in which someone crossed quadrants poses the problem Lephyr suggested

And by the way, there's an abundance of cross-quadrant feats

I mean there could be infinite galaxies and still be a finite distance between galaxy since when we see how the quadrants are seperated it’s outwards instead of inwards

 

[BlastX]

Also (and sorry if this comes as a sub purist) I feel Broly's quote in his page should be changed to his sub/JP one rather than his Dub one, since I feel that fits him a lot better.

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

I mean there could be infinite galaxies and still be a finite distance between galaxy since when we see how the quadrants are seperated it’s outwards instead of inwards

Crossing a distance between two separate infinities is blatant infinite speed

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

The worst thing is that all of DB's feats are energy crossing the universe or a character hit a ship that crossed several galaxies, most feats are like that, there are no other feats he can't be used, we have to risk it at infinite speed or we go back to speed of sound lol

 

[StekFence]

Would it be possible to make a profiles for Brolyverse Gohan?

Is he any different form normal gohan besides for stats?

 

[BlastX]

I mean...yeah? He goes through different stuff that the Gohan from canon doesn't go through and is far more willing to fight.

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Most of Dragon Ball's currently MFTL+ feats are shit that crosses entire quadrants

And I don't see ALL of them getting nuked

Although for the sake of Lephyr's fair concern, look to the relativistic feats

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Although for the sake of Lephyr's fair concern, look to the relativistic feats

please

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

please

That was it

The starting point would be relativistic. FTL and MFTL come from multiplying off of relativistic+

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

That was it

The starting point would be relativistic. FTL and MFTL come from multiplying off of relativistic+

That would be for early Super, I presume.

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

That would be for early Super, I presume.

Relativistic comes from early DBZ, so there's a HUGE scaling chain of multipliers

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

That was it

The starting point would be relativistic. FTL and MFTL come from multiplying off of relativistic+

Just thinking about that shit reminds me we would use the multipliers for everything like you multiply 50k times at that speed lol