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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

Hey guys, Kaioshin's creating stars and planets whole 100 millions years, so if universe is infinite it doesn't mean that there is infinite stars and planets 🌚
 
BitestDust said:
Hey guys, Kaioshin's creating stars and planets whole 100 millions years, so if universe is infinite it doesn't mean that there is infinite stars and planets 🌚
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We already have a statement on infinite galaxies, and (unless you wanna say these galaxies are empty lol) they have star systems within them ofc
 
Ednaxel2 said:
We already have a statement on infinite galaxies, and (unless you wanna say these galaxies are empty lol) they have star systems within them ofc
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We also have statement about Yakon's planet what exist so far in cosmos, so there's no light from stars 🌚
And yeah, that mostly joke but... Hey, infinite galaxies means that Kaioshin's can create infinite number of stars and planet in finite time xD
 
BitestDust said:
We also have statement about Yakon's planet what exist so far in cosmos, so there's no light from stars 🌚
And yeah, that mostly joke but... Hey, infinite galaxies means that Kaioshin's can create infinite number of stars and planet in finite time xD
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Depends how the wiki treats it if infinite galaxies does mean also infinite stars and planets
 
BitestDust said:
Hey guys, Kaioshin's creating stars and planets whole 100 millions years, so if universe is infinite it doesn't mean that there is infinite stars and planets 🌚
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Well, the kaioshin have to replace the lost lives of people and new planets that were destroyed by Majin Buu, Freeza, and Moro, it's an endless cycle of death and life.

The kaiőshin are not only mere spectators of the world of the living and the dead, but also possess the power of "creation", thanks to which stars and life forms appear. To counteract this power, there are, on the other hand, gods who possess the authority and power of "destruction" of the entire universe, and are called the gods of destruction. We'll talk about them later, but the history of the Dragon Ball world has taken place in cycles of creation by the kaiōshin and destruction at the hands of the gods of destruction. In the universe to which Earth belongs, the Saiyajins, Freeza's clan, the monster Buu and other villains have destroyed many planets. However, every time something is destroyed, somewhere in the universe a kaiðshin gives birth to new life or a new star. Even if the kaiõshin have to actively intervene in the world of the living or in the Other Life, it will always be to maintain the order and balance of the stars and living beings. Therefore, it is these cycles of creation and destruction that maintain harmony throughout the universe.


What is confirmed in the anime is that the kaioshins create new lives after destroying plants and killing lives

 
RedReaper616 said:
GT is so silly because what is this? Goku says merely knowing of a technique (because he never saw Cell's absorption, ever) allows him to just nullify it and allows him to make it useless on himself. Dude has the Garou Hero Encyclopedia feat off of a game of Telephone.
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This happens in the evil dragons arc too, where Goku says that an attack doesn't work twice on him, once he's taken the attack his body adapts and ends up turning it into another's ability useless characters.

Episode 57 ( 04:50 minutes )
 
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LuffyRuffy46307 said:
This happens in the evil dragons arc too, where Goku says that an attack doesn't work twice on him, once he's taken the attack his body adapts and ends up turning it into another's ability useless characters.
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Man wtf were the GT writers cooking 😭. Trying to turn my mans into Garou or something lol
 
Something I'm writing up because I think it's accurate.
  • Saiyans within the Toei Continuity are repeatedly stated to have what appears to be infinite or bottomless power, their Saiya Power. Given they don't have infinite Stamina, nor do they have literally infinite potency without training, and given the stress on "Seemingly" endless power, I think they should have their Ki's have this quality. This would align with another trait they have revealed by Toei Daimao Piccolo's perception, who could only see the Oozaru, the gigantic monster that created fear within, a trait specifically tied to Goku's Saiyan Heritage and Dormant Powers. Essentially an extra part of their Social Influencing that instigates further fear. In this case it creates an “endless” or “bottomless” quality to their Energy.
 
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RedReaper616 said:
Something I'm writing up because I think it's accurate.
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Now they say it's hyperbole and fallacies
 
Do ya'll know where this supposed statement about the Supreme Kai's being 1,000x stronger than Frieza came from? I've heard it a few times but can never seem to find it. Most I can find is Supreme Kai saying that him and his kin could defeat Frieza with a single blast.
 
RedReaper616 said:
Something I'm writing up because I think it's accurate.
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Its power is infinite! What is Super Kamehameha?
Super Saiyan Son Goku's special attack on Coola. It was "Kamehameha". Kamehameha is a technique that condenses latent energy within the body and releases it all at once! However, the Super Saiyan Kamehameha, which has ultimate power, is far more powerful than normal Goku's! That is the “Super Kamehameha”!!!

If Saiyans have infinite latent power, and the Super Kamehameha draws it out, I see no reason it can't be high 3-A
 
RinneItachi said:
Do ya'll know where this supposed statement about the Supreme Kai's being 1,000x stronger than Frieza came from? I've heard it a few times but can never seem to find it. Most I can find is Supreme Kai saying that him and his kin could defeat Frieza with a single blast.
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No idea. Would be interesting to have, though.
 
RedReaper616 said:
No idea. Would be interesting to have, though.
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Both because it would provide heavily supporting evidence for large star-solar level statements/scaling and because it offers pretty easy power level calcs for anyone who cares about that. Would automatically make him 120,000,000,000,000 which has funny implications for other Buu Saga characters. Base Goku and Vegeta in particular being stronger than Shin would imply that in base they each surpass 120 trillion. Now add in multipliers...
 
XXBenShapiroXx said:
Cannot wait for combat intelligence to get nuked off this site, so done with 'whose more skilled' circle jerk threads'
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What would be removed are the Inteligence ratings based on Combat Inteligence........Combat Inteligence will pretty much sti be a thing

also the Sonic out of nowhere
 
Omegabronic said:
What would be removed are the Inteligence ratings based on Combat Inteligence........Combat Inteligence will pretty much sti be a thing

also the Sonic out of nowhere
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Well something needs to change, because some of the shit i see is unacceptable. Verses that don't have any opps, mods or otherwise, get away with the most ridiculous shit, including combat IQ ratings
 
"Average generally. Extraordinary Genius in Combat (Although he lacks knowledge when it comes to things that aren't related to fighting, Goku is a master of prodigal skill when it comes to martial arts, with years of experience fighting against powerful opponents with a plethora of abilities. As a child, he was able to beat martial artists on such a level as Grandpa Gohan, who was stated to be an unparalleled master in all martial arts on Earth, with martial arts in Dragon Ball exceeding real life towards Dan/Level 30 where there is only 10. In his battle with Master Roshi, was able to copy and improve upon a technique on sight, later in that same battle once faced against the Sui-Ken, a martial art he couldn't copy because he had never experienced inebriation, Goku generated and created his own style known as the "Crazy Fist" in response to perfectly counter it off the top of his head, with these styles even specifically noted to be a variation of Kenpo. At this point should be so skilled he's beyond 22nd World Tournament Roshi and Tien, the former of which having such mastery his movements, energy, and breathing have no ineffiency, and the latter being able to detect this merely via observation of scant attacks whilst his future foe was suppressed. Learned predictive movements and enemy reading in merely three days and was able to immediately apply it in combat. His skill when it comes to combat and the usage of Ki allows him to replicate other Ki-based techniques after seeing them once, and learned the training of the mind within a day, which takes battles that are dead even in all physical abilities, except stamina, which was above Goku's, as well as all techniques go from even to utter defeats of the enemy. Eventually learned to make absolutely zero unnecessary movements, which is shown by creating absolutely no sound from bells that react to the tiniest movement. Honed his mind, body, and spirit in conjunction with each other for his martial arts. Should be more skilled than and effective at copying than Vegeta, who was able to replicate the Energy Sensory of the Z-Fighters by merely battling them, and their methods aren't detectable by any known conventional means. He was the first to realize how much energy the Super Saiyan transformations unnecessarily drained and despite the drawback was the first to master the Super Saiyan state, making it highly efficient and subsidizing the need to reach a higher grade, which decreases speed as a side effect. He is a genius in combat and is capable of devising new applications of his techniques on the fly, such as using Kamehameha with his feet, and Goku's training with King Kai was directly noted to be worth thousands of years of his prior accomplishments, experience, and skill. As a Saiyan, he has a natural sense for battle and adapts to it quickly. He as able to go toe to toe with Cell, a being created by the genius scientist Dr. Gero to be the ultimate warrior, taking the DNA and footage of every fighter on Earth and on Namek, copying their techniques, their mannerisms, and their skills to create him, including Goku himself, also having knowledge on how he approaches battle as well, down to real-time strategy, something that despite using an advanced supercomputer capable of creating machines that can destroy planets and stars, still took 20 years. Cell was even noted by others to perfect the martial arts and techniques of those who comprised him such as Tien's Multiform Technique, removing their flaws, and yet Goku was able to face four copies of Cell whilst their physical ability was identical off of his own raw battle intelligence and skill. Should be more skilled than Piccolo, who regularly utilizes perfect copies of himself to train with to hone all of his capabilities to their utmost extent. Fought and beat the Sigma Force, who had combat data on all of his capabilities that allowed them to evade and punish all of his movements by sharply increasing his power and using a move they had never seen before. Goku is capable of seeing the holes, flaws, and errors in techniques and fighters after seeing or hearing of them, such as when he took advantage of the weaknesses within the Multiform Technique after experiencing a single beatdown, how he noticed Hachiyack's sudden weakness at the 15 second mark of his Revenger Cannon Attack, the gap in the Thunder Flash and exploited it to take advantage of an opening, Frieza's inability to sense Ki to create openings in his defenses, or Cell's perfected combat to lure and lead the four fighters into a means of which he can defeat all at once. Identified that it wasn't Haze Shenron getting stronger, but him and Pan getting weaker.

Even outside of Combat, Goku is no slouch mentally. He played on the ego of Naturon Shenron to trick him into making Pan vulnerable so he could free him, planned a convincing act and fight with Nuova Shenron to trick Omega Shenron into a gambit that guaranteed victory outside of a specific ability they had no knowledge of, was able to identify and operate around a plan of Trunks and Giru's own making within secret to then perfectly go along with and bolster their scheme, revealing Baby and allowing them an attempt to kill the Tuffle. Was capable of crafting another plan along with Trunks and Pan to get Baby to reveal his own aims, make himself vulnerable, and defeat him. Goku was capable of realizing how Baby's body possession worked and figured out that cutting off his tail would force him into being ejected."

My current intelligence rating. Any other strategies or things of note in his combat section that I should cover?
 
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