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they are saying that for the universe to truly be infinite there would have to be infinite stars, not a finite number of starsI mean can a Universe be Infinite and still just have a finite amount of Stars in it? (Like this is getting into definition of what we count as an infinite Universe here on this wiki, only the admins can decide that concretely)
i hope soWho's going to make the next infinite universe RCT, that TheGod? I'm curious
if there are 200 billion stars in the galaxy obviously there are finite starsfor DB, its no where stated to have finite stars? this is talking about the galaxy
The characters in the story are saying this or some person?they are saying that for the universe to truly be infinite there would have to be infinite stars, not a finite number of stars
in the galaxy... yeah?if there are 200 billion stars in the galaxy obviously there are finite stars
It would be me, but I’m upset that Luffy made the thread in the first place. I literally had a general idea of what I wanted to do. Although now I’m focusing on talking with Qaw offsite, as I’ve seen the latest messages on the CRT after its closure. To my knowledge the distance between 2 points being infinite but having an edge doesn’t contradict it being mathematically infinite. So I’m quite interested to finding out if there’s a mathematical reason to why it would, since there are uncountable amount of reals between 0 and 1. So far Qaw mentioned something about conceptual and mathematical infinite thought.Who's going to make the next infinite universe RCT, that TheGod? I'm curious
It would be me, but I’m upset that Luffy made the thread in the first place. I literally had a general idea of what I wanted to do. Although now I’m focusing on talking with Qaw offsite, as I’ve seen the latest messages on the CRT after its closure. To my knowledge the distance between 2 points being infinite but having an edge doesn’t contradict it being mathematically infinite. So I’m quite interested to finding out if there’s a mathematical reason to why it would, since there are uncountable amount of reals between 0 and 1. So far Qaw mentioned something about conceptual and mathematical infinite thought.
Goku Black vs Goku
Gohan is the frist worker and Goten is the second worker
Well there’s infinite darkness, don’t think you’d find stars therebulma bad
bro i found a scan that might make Bulma's statements true
How would we end up with low1c afterlife with this?anyone who brings that argument up hasn't been paying attention to the Bigger than 2-A thread. I'm actually kinda curious to see if they maintain the same stance and argue in favour of low 1-C Toei Afterlife. if not, then they're supremely biased and not worth taking seriously in any capacity
if you use @Iamunanimousinthat's logic, the toei Afterlife has to be uncountably infinitely larger than Heaven, which is infinite in size like the Toei living universeHow would we end up with low1c afterlife with this?
qawsed disagreed with that i thinkif you use @Iamunanimousinthat's logic, the toei Afterlife has to be uncountably infinitely larger than Heaven, which is infinite in size like the Toei living universe
i mean yeah it doesn't make sense, containing infinite galaxies isn't a higher infinity, hence all high 3A would become low 2Cqawsed disagreed with that i think
he said something on the lines of its in same way an infinite space containing infinite timelines isn't inherently 5-D in a tierable way or whatever. So yea.i mean yeah it doesn't make sense, containing infinite galaxies isn't a higher infinity, hence all high 3A would become low 2C
Qawsed said you can have a countable infinite set that would contain those spaces without being an uncountable infinite. Which is weird to me since that would have to mean heaven and the afterlife are of the same cardinality, which blatantly isn't true now. Since this site uses CH, low 1-C afterlife has to be a thing now. Can you explain why its not? Or put into words of what qaw meant?if you use @Iamunanimousinthat's logic, the toei Afterlife has to be uncountably infinitely larger than Heaven, which is infinite in size like the Toei living universe
i don't think CH is entirely accepted here tbh, might have to confirm this with @Qawsedf234 . i talked to Hades off-site about it. neither him nor I believe that afterlife should be low 1-C, since aleph-1 doesnt have to be 2^aleph-0, it can simply be an intermediate infinity that is larger than aleph-0 but not uncountably infinitely larger. from what i learned after reading the Bigger than 2-A, it may simply be insignificant 5D (which itself is a stupid concept but whatever)Qawsed said you can have a countable infinite set that would contain those spaces without being an uncountable infinite. Which is weird to me since that would have to mean heaven and the afterlife are of the same cardinality, which blatantly isn't true now. Since this site uses CH, low 1-C afterlife has to be a thing now. Can you explain why its not? Or put into words of what qaw meant?
Yeah hades told me the intermediate infinity also, but ultima has said to us that CH wouldn't be disproved and a lot of the tiers are based on that logic, it's either one of the other, wouldn't make sense to use it in only some cases but not others. I really just don't see how using CH (assuming vsb solely uses it) would not make the afterlife low 1-C, but yes without CH, it would not be. Qaw might know. Might have to read the bigger than 2-A thread again. But tbh, for me, there isn't any other way to tier the afterlife while using CH.i don't think CH is entirely accepted here tbh, might have to confirm this with @Qawsedf234 . i talked to Hades off-site about it. neither him nor I believe that afterlife should be low 1-C, since aleph-1 doesnt have to be 2^aleph-0, it can simply be an intermediate infinity that is larger than aleph-0 but not uncountably infinitely larger. from what i learned after reading the Bigger than 2-A, it may simply be insignificant 5D (which itself is a stupid concept but whatever)
tbh CH doesn't need to be "disproven" because it was never proven in the first place, you can just outright dismiss it. and to be honest Ultima is kinda wrong here, most Set theoreticians are looking at entirely different systems of axioms, most of which come with the implications that implicitly falsify CHYeah hades told me the intermediate infinity also, but ultima has said to us that CH wouldn't be disproved and a lot of the tiers are based on that logic, it's either one of the other, wouldn't make sense to use it in only some cases but not others. I really just don't see how using CH (assuming vsb solely uses it) would not make the afterlife low 1-C, but yes without CH, it would not be. Qaw might know. Might have to read the bigger than 2-A thread again. But tbh, for me, there isn't any other way to tier the afterlife while using CH.
Right I remember ultima was asked, "What if CH is disproven then what?" and hes like, "It wont be" .tbh CH doesn't need to be "disproven" because it was never proven in the first place, you can just outright dismiss it. and to be honest Ultima is kinda wrong here, most Set theoreticians are looking at entirely different systems of axioms, most of which come with the implications that implicitly falsify CH
Continuum hypothesiswhats ch
yeah bro's got a bit of a skill issue there.Right I remember ultima was asked, "What if CH is disproven then what?" and hes like, "It wont be" .
Ultima?yeah bro's got a bit of a skill issue there.
You mean the history of Trunks?is trunks anime comics thing valid?
i heard of a guide or something similar of the name Trunks anime comicsYou mean the history of Trunks?
well that's not the point?Goku with genkidama can beat Gohan