- 13,227
- 21,041
I'd go with "at least 2x", and that's still consistent with First Form Frieza having a PL of 530,000 and Second Form Frieza's being over 1 million
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The only statement I see here which even references power here is the one which says several. The other three are in reference to power level so I don't see why they are important here. Several is more than 2 but more than 2 isn't at least 3. A 2.5x multiplier of ones power is still their power being multiplied by several times.The Legendary Manga says "[Frieza's] Power Level doubles" but the Daizenshuu 5, Extreme Battle Collection, and Volume 'F' say "several times"/"more than double"/"many times". Could the multiplier then be accepted as three-times, bare minimum?
i mean...Make the CRT then
Bump it then use your necromancyi mean...
Dragon Ball Kaioken Validity
Okay, this is a simple thread to officially adopt whether we use kaioken hypothetical multipliers as linear as the normal ones or not In this thread , apparently it was decided to not use kaioken multipliers that were not shown having a stated power level. This makes no sense to me, as it...vsbattles.com
Well actually-...uh, wait...oh.35 years and vegeta still hasn't beaten a single main villain
Broly not even a main villain anymoreCan we count Vegeta and Goku getting a shared W over Broly?
Surely Vegeta gets the W over Frieza in the upcoming arc, he needs one good W before EoZ.Broly not even a main villain anymore
That's what we're hoping but I kinda doubt it ngl.Surely Vegeta gets the W over Frieza in the upcoming arc, he needs one good W before EoZ.
I think there's a good chance personallyThat's what we're hoping but I kinda doubt it ngl.
It'll probably be a generic Goku W since he's the MC and this arc will probably be the last for obvious reasons. They're gonna be like "Wanna give Vegeta a W? Nah nah it's the last big villain just let Goku take the glory one more time.".I think there's a good chance personally
You're probably right but I think if we're all being honest, Piccolo should get a W as well.It'll probably be a generic Goku W since he's the MC and this arc will probably be the last for obvious reasons. They're gonna be like "Wanna give Vegeta a W? Nah nah it's the last big villain just let Goku take the glory one more time.".
Well tbh it'll probably be a team effort with Goku leading the charge. Sort of like Kid Buu.
He beat Frieza.35 years and vegeta still hasn't beaten a single main villain
He beat down a weakened Frieza who could barely maintain his golden form. Doesn't count if I'm being honest.He beat Frieza.
He should I just doubt he will. And Frieza having a soldier on par with Orange Piccolo is farfetched to me if I'm being fr.You're probably right but I think if we're all being honest, Piccolo should get a W as well.
Maybe have two villains, Goku and Vegeta get Frieza and Gohan and Piccolo get Frieza's new goon lieutenant
We do, SSJ 2 is currently a 100x multiplier and SS3 is a 400x oneAlso do we still not use multipliers for forms after SSJ1?
Like I still don't get why. Even IF you say that the strength boost by SSJ2 and SSJ3 isn't consistent, that doesn't mean we can't apply the multipliers anyways as a lowballed estimate lmao. Like at that point it's literally saying "No SSJ2 has to be MORE than a 2x boost!" "Then why don't we just say it's at least 2x if not more?" "I uh..."
Just say you a Vegeta haterHe beat down a weakened Frieza who could barely maintain his golden form. Doesn't count if I'm being honest.
Oh good. That's a good update.We do, SSJ 2 is currently a 100x multiplier and SS3 is a 400x one
Vegeta is like my top 3 fav DB characters bro. But he really hasn't taken out a single main bad guy the whole series. Even in the ToP he was explicitly referred to as the second fiddle to Goku. They know it, everybody knows it. Man can catch W's but not big ones, it's just the narrative against him.Just say you a Vegeta hater
So your a Vegeta hater who doesn’t realize it?Vegeta is like my top 3 fav DB characters bro. But he really hasn't taken out a single main bad guy the whole series. Even in the ToP he was explicitly referred to as the second fiddle to Goku. They know it, everybody knows it. Man can catch W's but not big ones, it's just the narrative against him.
I wouldn't acknowledge someone who would say such a horrendously bad take but they're probably referring to the RoF arc if I had to guess.Some guy is telling me DB only reaches tier 5 because Vegeta was going to die to a planetary explosion, how do I debunk it?
Just say you got a Vegeta body pillow.So your a Vegeta hater who doesn’t realize it?
Vegeta body pillow is a WJust say you got a Vegeta body pillow.
I agree, but you know downplayersLike people who unironically say that DB characters peak at planetary are genuinely delusional or straight up ill. Frieza, while cut in half, having half OF his upper half also destroyed, and his power level so weak that Goku can't even sense it and think's he's dead, AND while unconscious, still easily tanked the explosion of planet Namek while underneath the surface of the planet, without any issue at all. Like he would've been at some 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% of his strength type shit and shrugged off a planetary explosion like it was nothing.
Yeah I'm used to it.I agree, but you know downplayers
I...Yeah I'm used to it.
I've seen people make the argument that Frieza has some kind of specific genetic resistance to planetary explosions at this point in order to downplay DB. Like actually spitting on the concept of Occam's Razor.
Yeah with those levels of downplay I can't be sure if someone is being serious or not. When I see someone claiming Whis is wall level because he has no AP feats, that's when I know they just want attention.I...