Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

[XXBenShapiroXx]

Luffy, don't plead with the mods directly, just respond with arguments, and make sure they are well backed and solid. I'm not naive enough anymore to think the strength of the argument is all that matters, but still, that's just bad optics for any supporters after to deal with, and it's just not how one should be arguing.

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

Like no matter how right you are to say something like 'you won't change your vote' directly to a mod, that doesn't help one bit.

 

[Hasty12345]

@LuffyRuffy46307 don't go and complain about staff behaviour on the staff thread where you're going to want to continue defending your argument, you're just going to get yourself kicked off the thread or worse banned if you don't be careful with the accusations,

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Luffy, don't plead with the mods directly, just respond with arguments, and make sure they are well backed and solid. I'm not naive enough anymore to think the strength of the argument is all that matters, but still, that's just bad optics for any supporters after to deal with, and it's just not how one should be arguing.

I know, but it's strange that they voted without seeing the counter arguments.

@LuffyRuffy46307 don't go and complain about staff behaviour on the staff thread where you're going to want to continue defending your argument, you're just going to get yourself kicked off the thread or worse banned if you don't be careful with the accusations,

I don't think i can ban myself for just being upset by all their behavior in other threads.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

I don't think i can ban myself for just being upset by all their behavior in other threads.

man...

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

I know, but it's strange that they voted without seeing the counter arguments.

I don't think i can ban myself for just being upset by all their behavior in other threads.

Given the mods in question, it is not at all out of line with past behavior. Either way, still not something that needs to be brought up. Argue the point, that's it.

 

[Hasty12345]

I don't think i can ban myself for just being upset by all their behavior in other threads.

No, but if you continue to throw accusations around in a staff thread without permission to make those comments, you'll get yourself thrown off the thread and unable to defend your claims.

 

[Deleted member 40688]

Pretty much

Given the mods in question, it is not at all out of line with past behavior. Either way, still not something that needs to be brought up. Argue the point, that's it.

 

[Omegabronic]

@LuffyRuffy46307 don't go and complain about staff behaviour on the staff thread where you're going to want to continue defending your argument, you're just going to get yourself kicked off the thread or worse banned if you don't be careful with the accusations,

he only got permission for a few posts by Ant to explain his points.....so him wasting the few posts he was allowed to make on that is really weird

 

[Omegabronic]

I don't think i can ban myself for just being upset by all their behavior in other threads.

but you can if you keep spaming several posts sequentially when you were only allowed to make "a few" by Ant, you weren't given endless post permission, don't forget that

 

[ProfectusInfinity]

he only got permission for a few posts by Ant to explain his points.....so him wasting the few posts he was allowed to make on that is really weird

Don't bureaucrats grant unlimited participation?

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I said, 3 agreements in a row, we only have DDM on our side, nothing will change if you present counter arguments, it's my word against three admin, i think it's funny these things happen and all we can do is watch...

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

I said, 3 agreements in a row, we only have DDM on our side, nothing will change if you present counter arguments, it's my word against three admin, i think it's funny these things happen and all we can do is watch...

Dude like 90% of the verse supporters don't even know this crt exists yet.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Dude like 90% of the verse supporters don't even know this crt exists yet.

Exactly, imagine them discovering the thing will generate chaos.

It would be funny to be attacked from all possible sides at infinite speed

 

[Omegabronic]

Don't bureaucrats grant unlimited participation?

they can grant that, doesn't mean that it is the default

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

Exactly, imagine them discovering the thing will generate chaos.

It would be funny to be attacked from all possible sides at infinite speed

I'd prefer it not create chaos and instead someone who doesn't have personal beef with Omega respond and debunk his arguements in a concise manner.

 

[Omegabronic]

I'd prefer it not create chaos and instead someone who doesn't have personal beef with Omega respond and debunk his arguements

also someone with better organization, his posts are difficult to read

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

also someone with better organization, his posts are difficult to read

You are not much better tbh, I say some of your sentences aloud my furniture starts floating

 

[Deleted member 40688]

Youre not any better I have a hard time reading your stuff.

also someone with better organization, his posts are difficult to read

 

[Omegabronic]

You are not much better tbh, I say some of your sentences aloud my furniture starts floating

Hey, i am magical, what can i say?

 

[Ednaxel2]

I don't see why the timeline debunk thread needed to be in staff only. The original thread that got accepted only went on for three pages and was just a content revision thread not a staff one, it's also not relevant to any profiles whatsoever, not even Zeno himself, it's only a minor upgrade to the cosmology and other big verses like Sonic have received way bigger cosmology upgrades yet they were never locked in staff threads

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

Man this thread moves fast

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

I don't see why the timeline debunk thread needed to be in staff only. The original thread that got accepted only went on for three pages and was just a content revision thread not a staff one, it's also not relevant to any profiles whatsoever, not even Zeno himself, it's only a minor upgrade to the cosmology and other big verses like Sonic have received way bigger cosmology upgrades yet they were never locked in staff threads

I have some strong opinions on the decision to make it a staff only thread, which I believe to be intentional, but I won't air them here beyond saying that it is a hindrance to discussion more than anything.

I would rather a bloated thread the eventually finds the truth, rather than a quick one that is gatekeeped in an attempt to make counter arguements as tedious to make as possible in hopes of fulfilling an agenda.

 

[Omegabronic]

I don't see why the timeline debunk thread needed to be in staff only. The original thread that got accepted only went on for three pages and was just a content revision thread not a staff one, it's also not relevant to any profiles whatsoever, not even Zeno himself, it's only a minor upgrade to the cosmology and other big verses like Sonic have received way bigger cosmology upgrades yet they were never locked in staff threads

The consequences of it, that being the uncomposited cosmology crt, lasted for 24 pages of constantly back and forth, with staff there saying that a staff thread would be needed for the topic in the future

 

[RedReaper616]

To be honest, my only critique with the new staff thread is the final point made in the OP. Time flowing in a singular direction (relative to “forward” or “backward”) doesn’t go against/debunk the notion of timelines moving forward simultaneously in a branch (which is actually supported in the DBS Anime and Manga. When they re-appear in the Future after waiting a day in the Past, it is also 24 hours later in the Future). It’s actually part of this very reasoning we had to combat to establish the Hypertimeline isn’t simply that (which it isn’t).

 

[Ednaxel2]

The consequences of it, that being the uncomposited cosmology crt, lasted for 24 pages of constantly back and forth, with staff there saying that a staff thread would be needed for the topic in the future

That impacts the verse far differently than this one even if they are both cosmology based crts

 

[Deleted member 40688]

Hope yall cook in that staff discussion thread.

 

[Omegabronic]

That impacts the verse far differently than this one even if they are both cosmology based crts

They impact in the same way actually

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

Still using the futamase stuff when it's not even a commentary on how stuff works inside dragon ball but real life physics. man...

 

[RedReaper616]

Still using the futamase stuff when it's not even a commentary on how stuff works inside dragon ball but real life physics. man...

It’s more like a mish-mash. He’s trying to explain things as they appear in the Anime based on what we know/concepts in real life. Like when he’s explaining Time Travel, he’s specifically noting that “it must be moving FTL” to “achieve what we see in the series.”

That said, it’s still not valid evidence. I just think people give Futamase’s breakdowns a bit too much crap, especially since his breakdowns are often in the same vein as the Limitless Breakdown we got by mathematicians for Gojo in JJK (and people reference that all the time). Approaching a fictional set of ideas and trying to logic them out based on their field of study. It’s just his answers don’t line up as perfect explanations as Dragon Ball is a much less grounded world.

 

[Damage3245]

I don't see why the timeline debunk thread needed to be in staff only.

It would've been six pages by now.

 

[BlastX]

The yapping in this thread is insane

 

[Omegabronic]

I asked for closure for now btw, personal reasons make me not comfortable continuing it for now

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

The yapping in this thread is insane

Ikr. I come back from my sleep and 100000 more pages

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Still using the futamase stuff when it's not even a commentary on how stuff works inside dragon ball but real life physics. man...

Example must be shown, whether you like it or not, are still talking about DB's time machine, i don't know why you feel that way about it, it's just reinforcing what's inside the work itself.


Furthermore, there is no rule about the subject, otherwise I wouldn't even bring it up.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Goku and Vegeta when they no longer have colors to represent their new transformations

 

[StrymULTRA]

The consequences of it, that being the uncomposited cosmology crt, lasted for 24 pages of constantly back and forth, with staff there saying that a staff thread would be needed for the topic in the future

Ngl, but wouldn't your CRT also downgrade the multiverse to not even using MWI, due to timelines creating only when a time travel happens?

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

Well, yeah, but this is a manga
That issue doesnt exist here, when Toriyama drew that he obviously wasnt thinking like that. Some water would obviously be cropped out but if you looking for landmass, what ya see is what you get.

Attempting to ape out the percentage of land coverage on Dragon Ball's Earth

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

[Omegabronic]

Ngl, but wouldn't your CRT also downgrade the multiverse to not even using MWI, due to timelines creating only when a time travel happens?

In what way would it downgrade not even using MWI? What do yoy mean?

 

[StrymULTRA]

In what way would it downgrade not even using MWI? What do yoy mean?

Basically MWI has every timeline constantly generating others off of new possibilities happening in new timelines, making a constantly expanding branch of them.

DB doesn't use this in canon, as new timelines are made only when there's a time travel.