Dragon Ball Super Discussion LXXX

[AppleLord]

Well, whatever Vegeta is after has to do with Instant Transmition otherwise he wouldn't bother going to Yardrat. Where's the foreshadow that something that could take down Moro exist in Yardrat? I am feeling uneasy about this plot convient new technique that will help Vegeta and somehow he knew that Yardrat had it.

 

[Huesito88]

Well he mentioned they did have weird moves he never specified what they were though back then =/

 

[MonzyMonz]

I want Buu to kill Moro. Vegeta had his shine in the TOP arc, now it's Buus turn.

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

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[MonzyMonz]

I just realised that they made Gogeta (DB Super) a Possible Low Multiverse level

Why isn't Goku on the same level when UI?

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

Because Goku isn't on the same level as Gogeta and Gogeta is only possibly 2-C while in Blue...?

 

[DragonEmperor23]

There have been a lot of complaints about the recent villains Dragon Ball has had over the years. If you were to introduce a new villain to the series, as in for 2uper, how would you go about it? His motivation, the source behind his powers, any connections he has to characters we already know, etc.

 

[AKM sama]

First and foremost, he needs to be a she OvO

 

[ZERO7772]

^I second this.

 

[Dominodalek]

So, big Heroes news: Kid Chi-Chi's being added, Kamioren has a new form, Dark Broly and Xeno King Vegeta are back, Fin absorbs Mira, Xeno Bardock gets Super Saiyan 4, and Xeno Trunks gets Super Saiyan God.

https://twitter.com/DBReduxTDC/status/1152831140119621632

 

[MonzyMonz]

Because Goku isn't on the same level as Gogeta and Gogeta is only possibly 2-C while in Blue...?

There are actual debates whether UI Goku is stronger then Gogeta or not, I believe that Gogeta beats UI Goku, but there are some evidence that the fusion warrior could possibly get defeated.

 

[ZERO7772]

There is none. There's really no way to compare Gogeta to UI Goku without going into headcanons and speculation.

The real debate is Jiren vs Broly, which if you can figure it out, you can solve the whole formula.

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

Literally 10 seconds ago I found out there was a DBS Broly deleted scene. There was a video Geekdom just uploaded but it got deleted the second it was uploaded.

 

[ZERO7772]

We got SSG trunks and SSJ4 Baradock but not freaking SSJ Pan. Does Bandai hate Pan or something?

 

[Tipper17]

We got SSG trunks and SSJ4 Baradock but not freaking SSJ Pan. Does Bandai hate Pan or something?

Beats me we had female ssj in canon already so ssj pan shouldn't be difficult

 

[AKM sama]

Ayy Redberry Trunks looks cool. Kamioren looks like Anilaza.

 

[HST_Master]

SSJ4 Bardock is old news but hey, another SSJ transformation that a hybrid saiyans can use.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Okay, a female villain. What comes after that?

 

[Tipper17]

Kamioren new form is terrible and looks awful.

 

[ZERO7772]

The dub has reached episode 120! They are almost done only 10 episods left.

I think I will rewatch some parts of the ToP once the dub is done

 

[Ionliosite]

The dub has reached episode 120! They are almost done only 10 episods left.
I think I will rewatch some parts of the ToP once the dub is done

I'm glad my dub finished the whole series month ago, with 130 and 131 premiering as an 1 hour special even.

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

A female villain that doesn't just ooze pure destruction with no personality or the usual sadism tango that as been already seen one too many times. Think of someone like DO-S from OPM, enslaving and empowering people to fight for her so she's an indirect but very effective, intelligent threat. And when the cards are down and she's actually forced to fight, she's like an extreme version of Hit - hyper skilled, technical and fluid fighter that makes all of the skill Vegeta and Goku have seem paltry, but lacking much personal strength or endurance. So you can play around with her seeming defeat once or twice because she's so squishy, all for it to be a total reversal as she somehow used her pure skill or her whole "controlling fighters" shtick to wiggle out of that one, remaining elusive and hard to pin down.

Granted, this is talking mostly about feel and I have no clue what sort of motivation to give her. Not really fond of the usual "conquer all, destroy all, become stronger" barrel of repeated ideas.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

I see what you mean. What about connections to other characters, where does she come from, what is the nature of her Control ability(By nature, I mean, is it a technique she learned, magic, an ability that comes from her species...),etc.

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

Honestly, I would wanna say that it is a purely personal ability born from her force of personality, literally super charisma, perhaps with some ki shenanigans added in there for the actual empowering (thinking of something a certain character in Kengan Ashura can do).

I would want her to come from one of the races that barely survived the whole Frieza's empire fiasco. I hate with all my being that there's an entire universe out there, 12 in fact, and they feel so incredibly empty. I am not gonna say they did a good job, but I love GT for sending us in an universal trip (sorta).

The connections is the part I am less sure about.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

I see. A unique ability that is inherent to her, created from her strong personality. A survivor of the Frieza Force, in an attempt to flesh out and bring life to the universe. I agree, a new motivation is needed, one that hasn't been done before. Hmmm.

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

I don't think I ever wanna see blue Kaio-Ken again.

 

[BlastX]

But it has a cool design

 

[ZERO7772]

I don't want to see SSBE ever again as well.

Forms like SSBKK and SSBE are just so f*cking pointless and uncreative.

 

[Huesito88]

But I want SSBKK times infinity

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Also if anything the DVD blue ray also hypes broly "as their most dangerous opponent yet" so at least the statements aren't contradicted.

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

They are also way too powerful, giving SSB the shaft yet again. That's one of the reasons I really appreciate the Broly movie. It makes SSB feel impactful and powerful.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

@Zamasu May I ask what are you talking avout ? When was SSB given theshaft ?h

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

@Zamasu May I ask what are you talking avout ? When was SSB given theshaft ?h

Revival of F: Golden Frieza shit on SSB Goku as well as laser boy.

Tournament of Destroyers: SSB Vegeta got completely and Goku had to use the Kaio-Ken and still got beat.

Goku Black ark: Vegeta gets one shot by Black and all 3 of the saiyans are constantly getting their ass beat. Even Vegito couldn't put down Zamasu.

ToP: Everyone blue level is basically fodder.

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

Lmao

 

[Ovrhide]

Revival of F: Golden Frieza shit on SSB Goku as well as laser boy.

Tournament of Destroyers: SSB Vegeta got completely and Goku had to use the Kaio-Ken and still got beat.

Goku Black ark: Vegeta gets one shot by Black and all 3 of the saiyans are constantly getting their ass beat. Even Vegito couldn't put down Zamasu.

ToP: Everyone blue level is basically fodder.

Lol at everyone at the ToP being blue level. Even without using my brain i can without a doubt tell that over 60 of the 80 participants where fodder to even regular god.

Ssb is still very powerful, and a current blue would beat anybody from the ToP that isnt Toppo, jiren, and maybe kefla, and even kefla is debatable.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Not everyone was that fodder, Hit was undoubtedly quite strong. Just a not as strong as Jiren or Toppo. Dyspo was also pretty strong.

 

[ZERO7772]

Anilaza gave them the work, and heck even the 3 robots fusion was pushing back 2 SSB. Actually the 3 gay looking men from U2 actually gave Goku the work before he had to use SSBKK on 3 clowns.

That being said, SSBKK and SSBE are only spammed in the ToP arc "like everything else cuz the arc is long as f*ck" in The Broly movie and Moro SSB is still relevent

 

[Ovrhide]

Suer saiyan blue has always been relevant, besides Jiren, no other main antagonist had ever outclassed ssb to the point of being considered an entirely separate tier of power. And even now, a blue goku or vegeta would body anyone from the ToP who isnt god of destruction tier, or near it, which that being like 3 people.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Inb4 Uub appears in a canon arc and is Tier 2

 

[ZERO7772]

Well SSB came out back in 2015 and to this day (more than 4 years later) it's still THE main form so I approached that at least.

SSBKK and SSBE are filler forms anyway (At least for Toriyama's scripts)