Dragon Ball GT/Filler/Movie speed downgrade

[SomebodyData]

I'm willing to.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Wait, why is that an argument for another day? This is incredibly important to the situation at hand. Because we might have to adjust Broly to solid 4-A

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Feel free to do so then.

 

[SomebodyData]

@Cal We're using the speed factor of the feat. Currently, the profile portrays the AP part more of an outlier.

If you want to make a thread about it, go ahead, if you want to talk about it here, then uh. Ok.

I guess I support 4-A Broly?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

It would be doing like what we did for Piccolo's beam speed with Roahi's moon feat if we don't accept it as 4-A, so yeah. Kinda has to be 4-A or it would become illegitimate. I prefer the former (4-A)

 

[Antvasima]

It is probably better with a separate thread.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Alright then. SD, you mind posting a message on my wall so we can talk more in depth about it?

 

[Kyo_Zero]

Where are people getting KKx100 Goku from? It doesn't state he did so, and I'm fairly certain there wasn't anything confirming it was there?

 

[RadicalMrR]

I think it was on a pamphlet for the movie in japan.

 

[Antoniofer]

Talking about Movies, I made a calc about the Kame Hame Ha speed long time ago, that put their speed to 30.055c at most (maybe slower since Cooler didn't reacted to it).

 

[SomebodyData]

Didn't Cooler's death have quite the bit of cinematic timing?

 

[FTW395]

Well it's a movie, don't think we can use anything else to get a timeframe right?

 

[SomebodyData]

Correct, but cinematic timing is not a plausible option, which kinda makes it impossible to calc.

 

[Antvasima]

Here is our page about cinematic time: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Cinematic_Time

 

[FTW395]

So does Cooler fall into the exceptions or not?

 

[SomebodyData]

Yeah, the amount of inner dialogue is over 9000 in a scene that should take about a couple of microseconds, he even transforms back to his normal form offscreen.

 

[FTW395]

The huge inner dialogue only happens when the beam has already hit the sun, this just means Cooler was strong enough to fend off the kamehameha and the heat of the sun for a minute before he perishes. I'd say Cooler's death scene is one of the only scenes where cinematic timing can still be used to calculate speed.

 

[Antoniofer]

Ehh, I highly doubt that the scene itself dured microseconds, everything points that the scene was running in real time, being 17 s (min); if want to consider cinematic timeframe, that only will makes the time higher. But that kind of things happen when whe calculate speed via no given speed.

 

[Antvasima]

Have the statistics been adjusted?

 

[SomebodyData]

@FTW we simply don't do that. Cinematic timing changes quite a bit.

@Antoniofer true, but with the rest of the monologue and sudden frame switch of the sun in the way there, it just seems to apparent and possibly impactful to ignore it. Yeah, these kind of things do sadly happen.

@Ant Yes

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Thank you for the help. I suppose that necessary statistics explanations have been inserted as well?

 

[SomebodyData]

Well most of the Ap reasonings already covered the scaling, but I'll add it to speed as well with slight alterations so it isn't just repetition.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Thanks.

 

[Lina_Shields]

What is the consensus on this topic?

Any other things regarding this topic that need to be covered?

 

[RadicalMrR]

We still need to decide if were going to make Broly definitely 4-A as the MFTL+ rating hinges on his feat.

 

[SomebodyData]

@Rad thats another thread. Though expect to see it by the end of today.

 

[RadicalMrR]

Got it.

 

[Miles_Romero12]

I vote for Broly to be 4-A.

 

[Antvasima]

I suppose that it is most convenient to make Broly 4-A then, if we need to in order to properly scale all of the other characters.