Tdjwo
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Downgraded 5-B Hyuga Hinata
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I'm not saying that she does not have good Chakra Control. I'm asking for proof that it's to the level where she can use vast amounts of Chakra to increase her AP to that level.
The fact that she lacks the feats just goes to show that it's too iffy to just grant her 5-B and call it a day.
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It's explained on her profile.
She is not even 5-B she is low 5-B with a possible 5-B read her profile.
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This is a circular argument, nor are the profiles infallible. This CRT exists because they believe that Hinata's AP is wrong.
All the orb did was control Hinata, not absorb her chakra. That was the whole point of Toneri using it on her. To control her to forcibly make her go through with the ritual since she was lying to him. He had no reason to absorb her chakra like he did with Naruto.
You can't prove that she wasn't at full power because there's no indication that she was even weakened, or tired. She looks fine after the scene, up until the end credits. So that's a very clear assumption on your part.
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Is the tenseigan only rated as baseline 5-B? Because if it is rated as higher then it would make sense why HInata isn't powerful enough alone to do it. And ya seem to be downplaying the power of Naruto's rasengans, using a rasengan to destroy doesn't now make Hinata inferior to the point of being a lower tier, she simply just isn't powerful as a rasengan.
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It's not circular is a simple. This CRT exist because a guy is on a row to try to downplay Naruto characters the previous one was against Shikamaru and he got so humiliated.
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Base Naruto and Base Toneri are currently rated as "Unknown"
Base Naruto used the Rasengan to destroy the Tenseigan.
These guys are claiming Hinata couldn't destroy the Tenseigan despite being able to fill up Naruto's BSM reserves.
Yet Hinata couldn't even destroy something Base Naruto could.
So if this revision goes through, Hinata will go back to Unknown. (Or just backscale to her war arc)
Hinata would scale to Unknown because we have no definite feats for her to actually scale her to 5-B like BSM Naruto and TCM Toneri.
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We don't know how resistant is that teseigan and being unable to do it for her words lack of chakra doesn't change Naruto alone would be unable to destroy the teseigan so use that as argument is ridiculous
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Shikamaru one is irrelevant to this one. This one is absolutely valid, because you guys ignore one feat and are focusing on one specific feat.
How would Hinata scale to BSM Naruto but be weaker than Base Naruto's Rasengan? Hinata wasn't weakened as I proved before because she didn't show signs of weakness like Naruto did after Naruto removed the orb from her.
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Which is exactly why it'd be rated as Unknown. Because Base Naruto is Unknown, yet destroyed it. Hinata couldn't destroy it so she'd also be Unknown.
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Funny how the other guy using a completely different Jutsu as argument for the chakra absorbing was valid but now the same technique doesn't necessarily have the same effect on 2 different people
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Idk about Momo, I didn't even use that as MY argument.
You can clearly see the different effects of Toneri's Jutsu on Hinata and Naruto. Why would Toneri try to take Hinata's chakra? He was controlling her using the same ability but it had different effects. She wasn't weakened because Chakra wasn't taken from her, Naruto essentially removed a "virus" that was in her body. She didn't get weaker.
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No one used that feat to grant her low 5-B you were using that feat to downplay her but now you accept it as unknown so you cant downplay that anymore. This is the reason she has low 5-B.
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I think you lost yourself on your own arguments
Trihexa102
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Honestly both sides have very good and logical arguments. Tdjwo says the orbs affected Hinata so she wasn't at full power and its possible cause he gave an example where where couldn't even walk on wall properly while Nierre argument is also logical cause it makes no sense for her to be able to refill a BSM Naruto's chakra , but dosent even have chakra comparable to base Naruto rasengan
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Tdjwo
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I never stated that the orb absorbed Hinata's chakra. He never absorbed her chakra in the movie. I only ever stated that it messed up her chakra system. Everytime Toneri used the orb on Hinata, she always became either unconscious, or barely able to mold chakra, or barely able to do basic things a normal shinobi should be able to do.
FIrst-time Toneri absorbed used the orb on her
She became unconscious, and when she regained consciousness, she was temporarily physically weakened
The second time Toneri used it, she fell unconscious and got taken away.
The third time he used it on her;
she became so weak that she was unable to move from his decorated wall frame(can't find the image).
All these instances, Hinata was either unconscious or weakened "stat-wise." So it doesn't really matter what Toneri's intentions were whether he just wanted to control her or put her to sleep, the same thing always happened, Hinata's stats were decreased everytime the orb was put in her. Even when it got yanked out of her by Naruto, she almost lost consciousness from that
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And she didn't even take any break before proceeding to attempt to destroy the Tenseigan.
I showed you earlier how the orb weakens you several minutes after it's inside or outside her. In this scene, Naruto yanked out the orb and she almost passed out meaning she was weakened from the effects of the orb
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I’m in agreement with Shadow and Nierre here.
Tdjwo
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That wasent just base naruto. Naruto was litterally using kuramas chakra in the rasengan
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No he wasn't. Every time we saw Naruto's Chakra in the movie, it was orange.
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fr orange bitches
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Base Naruto using Kurama's Chakra < KCM Naruto
Also this
Also this
Naruto's rasengans and such are canonically orange
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Kuramas chakra is also orange... The rasengan that naruto and hinata used litterally had kuramas face on it
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Naruto's rasengans and rasenshurikens were orange in the movie. No it didn't. It had Hinata's Lion Fists on it, not Kurama's face.
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Nvm then
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I still disagree with the downgrade tho due to other stuff that has been brought up
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like waht
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Haha, insulting and making people who don't accept the truth Let's accept it differently. You should isolate the issue.
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You are just trash. Shouldn't dig familiar to waste time.
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that is not nice
this is why u cant get narutos small black balls
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And from the information that Hinata Hamura Chakra did in the story, how is it worth getting 5-B, you guys still can't explain it.
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nothing about the black ball What is mentioned is that Hinata Hamura Chakra in the story clearly shows that 5-B should not be.
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Stop going at each other's throats, especially you Sawada. Calling people trash is not an appropriate tactic. Thank you.
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I'm sorry, I didn't want that. But the person acts too stupid, acts like he doesn't accept the truth in order to The thread that I used to Up was right, despite the fact that a character like Himata had already accepted it. But he just didn't accept it. Like he's struggling to survive
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You should probably see how clear it is.
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Google translation soloing this man's career.
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I'm alone. I'm not good at Eng from birth.
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