Doubts about Haki + Akuma no no mi

[Lana_del_pey]

Good afternoon everyone,

Two scenes are typically used to justify "Strong Haki nullifies weaker Haki":

1- Doflamingo kicking Luffy boundman, and stating that "it's still rubber". No harm done.

2- Katakuri, self-proclaimed superior haki, punching Luffy and dealing damage.

I learned in discussions, and also on this wiki, that haki does not nullify the body skills of akuma no mi. And even if someone kicks (using haki) a light man, he will still remain light.


Could it be that the fact that Luffy is still rubber is directly linked to the fact that tribal haki (used in G4, mochi from katakuri, bigmom) has a unique property of harmonizing fruit with hardening haki?

Luffy always inflates his bones first, then coats them with haki to use g3. In my view, normal haki "nullifies" the users' modified body through hardening.

 

[Nierre]

Are you Child.....

 

[Lana_del_pey]

I'm not, but I read the discussion about Marco and couldn't help but agree with many points made by both sides.

 

[RazumaHiroki]

Are you Child.....

That's not Child's final form!

 

[Nierre]

I'm not, but I read the discussion about Marco and couldn't help but agree with many points made by both sides.

Well, I'll follow this thread anyways, I'd like to see where it's going

so neutral

 

[RazumaHiroki]

Well, I'll follow this thread anyways, I'd like to see where it's going

so neutral

It's a question and answer thread. The OP isn't proposing for anything, the OP wants clarification regarding how Haki interact with Akuma no mi. I'm too sleepy to give the OP an answer, i think Tempest or Emin will answer Lana's question.

 

[Nierre]

It's a question and answer thread. The OP isn't proposing for anything, the OP wants clarification regarding how Haki interact with Akuma no mi. I'm too sleepy to give the OP an answer, i think Tempest or Emin will answer Lana's question.

Go to sleep!!! You're always sleepy

 

[RazumaHiroki]

Go to sleep!!! You're always sleepy

My Sleep schedule is broken as hell.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Good afternoon everyone,

Two scenes are typically used to justify "Strong Haki nullifies weaker Haki":

1- Doflamingo kicking Luffy boundman, and stating that "it's still rubber". No harm done.

2- Katakuri, self-proclaimed superior haki, punching Luffy and dealing damage.

I learned in discussions, and also on this wiki, that haki does not nullify the body skills of akuma no mi. And even if someone kicks (using haki) a light man, he will still remain light.


Could it be that the fact that Luffy is still rubber is directly linked to the fact that tribal haki (used in G4, mochi from katakuri, bigmom) has a unique property of harmonizing fruit with hardening haki?

Luffy always inflates his bones first, then coats them with haki to use g3. In my view, normal haki "nullifies" the users' modified body through hardening.

Not sure what you are trying to say....

In the databook it states

→ When the ability of the devil fruit and the armed color are combined, the destructive power is enormous!!

And it shows luffy's Red hawk...

So combining Armament Haki with devil fruit makes it stronger... That's all it says. Might also be Stronger Haki but

 

[Lana_del_pey]

I understand, I was very imprecise. Using Luffy as an example, I'm trying to say that normal kouka hardens the part of the body it was applied to, to the point of losing elasticity.

About the databook... the same thing was said about something "simple" like the kuja arrow. I don't believe this combination is unique to the devil's fruits.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

It says when the ability of the devil fruit and armed color are combined, the destructive power is enormous...

 

[Lana_del_pey]

Yes, that is said. The skill depicted is the redhawk, which consists of stretching your arm backwards at high speed (or the opposite of it). However, to stretch the arm itself is not necessary kouka, Luffy only uses it in the fists.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/351448915502956547/895045117851893880/images_13.jpeg

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Luffy stretches and put Armament Haki on it.... I'm unsure what you are trying to say....

All I have seen from you is only headcannon with no actual proof ...

 

[Lana_del_pey]

In the colorful manga shows that they are "shadows" to demonstrate the arm moving at high speed.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/351448915502956547/895050792107663430/19.png

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Why would that matter?

 

[Nierre]

I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say

 

[Lana_del_pey]

This is important to remember that the databook scan does not relate to my question. Luffy can use haki on his hands and keep his arm elastic (different places). But in a hypothetical situation, could He stiffen His arm and still stretch it? as in the forms of the g4.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

This is important to remember that the databook scan does not relate to my question. Luffy can use haki on his hands and keep his arm elastic (different places). But in a hypothetical situation, could He stiffen His arm and still stretch it? as in the forms of the g4.

That's what he does in gear 2nd which is why it's so fast... And it goes back to normal size when luffy hits them...

 

[Lana_del_pey]

But g2 is fast as a result of the blood pumping. I don't believe haki influences that.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

But g2 is fast as a result of the blood pumping. I don't believe haki influences that.

Red Hawk is gear 2nd stretching putting Armament Haki, destretching and pulling it towards the opponent.

 

[Lana_del_pey]

I understand what you mean. But the redhawk only stretches the part of the arm without haki.