- 3,687
- 3,458
and since then we actually got a better feat of that iron block punch in the dlc in the bloodswamps where doomguy punches the same block except over around 30-40 meters in at about 3 secs
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ageing not my calcNo. You're squaring the entire equation there. Only square the Velocity giving:
0.5 * 211869 * 9.39130434783^2 = 9,343,062.44235 Joules, or 0.00223 Tons of TNT, Wall level...
That blood temple is a clear PIS and we have nothing to calc so we can’t use it either way. We have him no selling the 7-C ion catapult, tanking the 7-B argent explosion and eating up the 7-C argent cells. Doesn’t matter if is suit just absorbs it, Samuel gave it to him for the specific purpose of increasing his power so it scales to him. This is also reinforced by the fact that he absorbs the energy from fallen demons and that also proves that he scales to the titan.Blood temple was the Testaments from 2016
The Priests sealed him away after getting him in the Temple and dropping it on his head
The 7-C calc took into account the power required to travel that velocity on top of the concrete wall impact.The Ion Catapult was using specifically designed shells when firing at asteroids, if it were using that same power when it shot the Slayer, there would be a huge explosion when he crashed through the wall, instead that impact looks no higher than tier 9.
The Absorption isn't a dura feat in any way. He isn't tanking a 7-C attack or explosion.
and the Argent Tower was never shown in its full extent, and we don't know how much of it the Slayer tanked.
How Is it PIS. We’ve already established Slayer’s feats are debunked and it’s way too significant a plot point to write offThat blood temple is a clear PIS and we have nothing to calc so we can’t use it either way. We have him no selling the 7-C ion catapult, tanking the 7-B argent explosion and eating up the 7-C argent cells. Doesn’t matter if is suit just absorbs it, Samuel gave it to him for the specific purpose of increasing his power so it scales to him. This is also reinforced by the fact that he absorbs the energy from fallen demons and that also proves that he scales to the titan.
It's also been an inordinate amount of time since he used it, and unlike the Slayer's own Crucible, the Demonic Crucible is not untouched after all of those years. If it was used by the Slayer, any number of things could have happened with it between the Slayer's defeat and the events of DOOM 2016.ok about the titan champ
what crucible would he use? we know that the only available one was the demonic crusible and he didn't use it, its blade is still in the crucible handle which we know for a fact would not be the case if he used it
I only have a Doylist explanation for this one; the major plot point of "the Crucibles are the only thing capable of neutralizing Titans" wasn't written during DOOM 2016's development. They wrote it years later without remembering the very minute detail that the Titan's Realm stage doesn't feature a glowing red blade anywhere in the Titan's decayed corpse.plus the titan champ doesn't actually have the blade in it anywhere meaning it isn't sealed
ageing just assuming that doomguy conviniently found a random crucible out in the middle of nowhere and it just so happened to vanish over the years without the titan rasing up is somehow less head canon then doomguy beating it to a point where it can't resurrect(when even the voice of god aka hugo says that slayer is above a titan when it comes to pure power)
Correct.Slayer arrives stab the heart, unleashes the icon. Icon breaks the seal setting urdak off to its demise. We see weather changes in the atmosphere.
She has control over teleportation, as evidenced by the fact that she repeatedly transports the Hell Priests away from the Slayer at plot-convenient points in the story. It's a part of her powerset, which is extra evidence against her being able to do anything against the forces of Hell once the seal is broken, as even the weakest of demons start showing up in Urdak without her being able to stop them.Demons start teleporting in the khan makyr couldn’t stop it but that does not scale to her AP, preventing a teleport is hax.
Yes. The Slayer's actions of releasing a possibly world-killing Titan into the human world, whose mere presence may eventually generate a singularity which drags the universe into Hell (as stated within the game itself), have threatened all of creation.Slayer kills the khan makyr sounds off on how his actions threaten creation as soon as she dies
It doesn't. The camera and possibly the ground shake when the "Mysterious Voice" yells out in despair, and that shaking actually stops shortly after the voice does. The only things that persist after the voice is done yelling are the red sky and the occasional lightning strikes that hit the ground.and he orb erupts in the sky 6 seconds later ok sure, the area starts to shake apart.
Simple. By recognizing that the "fall apart" never actually happened to begin with, and that she wasn't able to prevent even the most minute changes in the atmosphere beforehand anyway.How can we assume anything but the fact that she was the actively preventing that fall apart from happening.
This doesn't seem like it's putting emphasis on the Slayer's personal honor at all. It appears to be more of a background explanation regarding the Crucible and a summary of events than an outright statement of the Slayer being bound by the same morals as the Sentinels.The Slayer Doesn't Care for Politics. That doesn't mean he doesn't respect the Sentinels Code of honor. The Art book suggest that he does believe in some of their traditions.
It's made clear that the Slayer has no knowledge of how the Crucible could have been used to free the Wraiths and shut down the Well until the events of the 2016 game take place.1: The demonic crucible was not in the slayers possession for 1 reason, if it was he would've freed the wraiths before the events of 2016 there are no lore reasons for the slayer to not use the demonic crucible to free the wraiths meaning that he did not have the demonic cruicible in his possesion unless we want to invoke the its for the plot rule which would be rather boring and could be used for your point of the slayer not being able to "kill" the icon without the crucible blade.
Since when are Marauders' axes and other Argent Energy weapons confirmed to be Crucibles of their own? Are you basing that on their appearance?2. The plot specifies something before we fight the icon that being only the slayers crucible sword is capable of sealing a titan if every other crucible weapon could seal a titan like the slayers blade we could just use the marauders axe or some other crucible weaponry(which is quite abundunt on argent danur) but we don't we need the slayers blade specificly and it makes me question if the demonic crucible can seal a titan like the slayers crucible, even in the codex entrie for sentinal hystory his blade was described as blazing with wraith fire that only a true sentinal warrior king could summon.
There may be multiple Crucible weapons in the setting, but from what the lore suggests, the Slayer is the only being known to have ever actually wield one.A sacred relic of the Sentinel People, the Crucible remains one of the most mysterious artifacts known to man. Texts from Argent D'Nur reference the weapon in a revered, righteous manner; while Night Sentinels were known to employ similar energy-based blades in their armaments, the Crucible remains the only one powerful enough to reportedly slay titan-class demons.
Only the Slayer holds knowledge of this venerated sword, for only he has been known to wield it. The blade burns with ethereal heat, immediately cauterizing flesh as it slices through.
This seems like a self-defeating series of points, but I'll address them anyway.3. Heres another problem with the crucible weapons and titans, in exultia we see multiple dead titans which didn't have a crucible weapon of any kind stuck in them but they still remained dead and we know that they have been that way for a while since the sentials that where traped in hell where trapped there along side the doomslayer eons ago but they still remain dead which leads me to question if all titans have the type 4 immortality some can simingly be killed by desmemborment(ageing seen in exultia) and that lead to another queastion that being if the titan champ had that immortality.
I wouldn't handwave Hugo's statements if they were perfectly in-line with what we see in the games. The problem is that they aren't. There's a noticeable amount of disconnect between what he's said and what the stories and such have presented so far.4. While i agree that athur statements can sometimes be wrong(hugo and the bfg) that doesn't mean we can just take them all and hand wave them away nothing really contradicts the slayer being able to harm them with his physical abilities hell the lore in both games implies that he can. Hell the fight with the titan champion was describe as a mighty battle "But from the depths of the abyss rose The Great One, a champion mightier than all who had come before. The Titan of immeasurable power and ferocity. He strode upon the plain and faced the Doom Slayer — and a mighty battle was fought on the desolate plains . . . The Titan fought with the fury of the countless that had fallen at the Doom Slayer's hand, but there fell the Titan, and in his defeat the shadow horde were routed" unless we want to say that the doomslayer completely foddarized the titan and avoided every blow(which would go ageinst it being a fiearce battle) doomslayer must've taken at least one or two attacks from the titan and surivived which would mean that he has multi city block levels of dura
The very Slayer Testament excerpt you linked states that the Great One was "mightier than all who had come before". There aren't very many ways that can be interpreted. It's a very straightforward statement with very straightforward implications.5. we don't really know if the camp was the strongest titan hell we don't know if icon is we see that massive titan in the ancinet gods that towers over both of them being able to reach mountain tops
And the fact that the slayer clearly had no idea where it was since Samuel had to tell him where it is.also why are we straight away going with that the sword the slayer had is the demonic crucible the sentianals were known to use recular swords so why couldn't it be a regular sword nothing in the slayer testements says it was a crucible weapon.
Not being able to prevent the weather changes would just be a showcase of her limits she could prevent the destruction from happening but on the flipped side a little bad weather got in.By recognizing that the "fall apart" never actually happened to begin with, and that she wasn't able to prevent even the most minute changes in the atmosphere beforehand anyway.
No no no as you can see when we travel to urdak in the dlc that most of the surrounding planets are severely fractured or just not there anymore.Which, no, Urdak never fell apart the way you're describing. It still exists. It's simply occupied and corrupted by the forces of Hell now. This is outright stated at the beginning of The Ancient Gods, Part I.