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Doom Eternal Revision Thread Part 4
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hmm so doom slayer still remains 7-C neet
also what about the icon since it was able to somewhat match the slayer in a prolonged fight
also what about the icon since it was able to somewhat match the slayer in a prolonged fight
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Going from values in the old calc:
Titan height ~ 22.330112782x the size of the Cyberdemon. Assuming Cyberdemon is around 7.5m tall makes the titan 167.475845865 metres tall
Titan mass - 249688.989286 metric tons = 249,688,989.286kg
Gravity = 9.81m/s^2
9.81 * 249688989.286 * 167.475845865 = 410,223,540,648.99987793 Joules. 98.045779 Tons. Not even 8-A
Titan height ~ 22.330112782x the size of the Cyberdemon. Assuming Cyberdemon is around 7.5m tall makes the titan 167.475845865 metres tall
Titan mass - 249688.989286 metric tons = 249,688,989.286kg
Gravity = 9.81m/s^2
9.81 * 249688989.286 * 167.475845865 = 410,223,540,648.99987793 Joules. 98.045779 Tons. Not even 8-A
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8-B
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Can’t we just use the current size of the titans?
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I get not using MFTL KE to measure guys who only have city level feats or something like that. But we have to take into account context, it‘s way more nonsensical to assume that titan an essential motionless object that would crumble under any extra weight put on it. Since it’s clear that the battle took place over an extended period of time I’d say scaling doomguy’s speed to it would be reasonable. We also have the 7-C argent cell that keeps it consistent.
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Massively Faster than light Kinetic Energy
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Do the impossible dammit /s
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That’s such an ironic statement massively FTL doesn’t exist, a 150 pound man producing enough energy to destroy a planet also doesn’t exist and are both impossible by mathematical standards. MFTL KE have been done multiple times before and I’ve seen a couple in blogs on this website.
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link em
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Where because SOL/FTL KE is outright frowned upon on the wiki and is something you can’t do
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We calculated the Titans to be 8-A to Low 7-C
We calculated the Titans to be 8-A to Low 7-C
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1. No, because the KE output was a higher tier than all the other feats that the character did. I am saying that when the tier level from the KE calc is the same tier as all the other feats I don’t see why we shouldn’t use it.
2. That’s not what I am saying, yes it’s possible to find that energy value in real life Astro Physics. What isn’t possible is that energy being generated from the mass of a human body. By the mathematical standards of The mass to energy conversion law.
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Could you link the calcs?
You're saying they were rejected because the KE was higher than the characters normal level of power, I doubt they will have been accepted even if they were consistent. Kinetic Energy just simply doesn't work like that. You have to switch the Relativistic KE before you even get to the speed of light, let alone once you've surpassed it, and once you start using Relativistic KE, then the limit is lightspeed, otherwise it's unquantifiable, as the energy levels would surpass infinity, and logic would fall out the window entirely.
Either way, this is a Doom thread, and the lightspeed KE talk doesn't apply to Doom. So we should end the conversation here. Make a new thread if you still have a problem.
You're saying they were rejected because the KE was higher than the characters normal level of power, I doubt they will have been accepted even if they were consistent. Kinetic Energy just simply doesn't work like that. You have to switch the Relativistic KE before you even get to the speed of light, let alone once you've surpassed it, and once you start using Relativistic KE, then the limit is lightspeed, otherwise it's unquantifiable, as the energy levels would surpass infinity, and logic would fall out the window entirely.
Either way, this is a Doom thread, and the lightspeed KE talk doesn't apply to Doom. So we should end the conversation here. Make a new thread if you still have a problem.
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The Argent energy cell feat is also getting the axe given the eating a highly electric battery not scaling to how much BFT one can withstand.
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But the Argent Tower explosion is still good, right?
But the Argent Tower explosion is still good, right?
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No?
The calc is it's Potential Energy which is how much it needs to exist, since the Titans have nothing else for feats
You'd be assuming the Champion is Subsonic when literally no Titan moves at speeds above a lumbering march and I think we frown upon Large Size KE
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DontTalkDT actually accepts GPE for giant characters being legit AP for the giants; however, assuming he body slams foes much smaller than himself would be the taboo part.
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It's Gravitational Potential energy is what we call energy of a giant humanoid body, not binding energy. Though they do sound similar yes.
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Even in context of the statement that doomguy is constantly getting stronger from absorbing argent energy?
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We see them moving like that because they can’t animate a titan moving a supersonic speeds. I’m just saying some sort of movement should be taken into account.
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No it shouldn't because literally nothing implies they're supersonic (List a feat that isn't just vaguely "was killed by Slayer" and even then that's sort of against our rules
We encounter many Titans in the game and lore so I don't see why you're arguing in favour of this
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wait what about the hell barges they carry shouldn't that bump it straight to 8-A?
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yeah the movement being supersonic is a meh
hell we know for a fact that doom slayer is faster then damn near everyone in the doom verse(father and dark lord not included since we don't much about them)
but we do know the tiatans have at least superhuman speed since their lumbaring march is like 100 meters per step
oh also we did see the icon of seen jog in the stage transition and he did move pretty damned quick crossed around 500meters to maybe a full mile in about 4 seconds so it would be around subsonic when running and that would up their possible kenetic output to around 8-A maybe 8-A+
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