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Either way, still very impressive, fiction is massive
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Doctor Who Discussion Thread
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Either way, still very impressive, fiction is massive
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In terms of versatility, they must be at the top. The technology is very versatile, in everything.
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If you support the idea that "The Enemy"/Faction Paradox were the writers, you could probably convince a lot of off-site people that they could contend with SCP. Of course it ain't that simple here or in general for powerscaling, but for a casual setting yeahl.
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I don't remember them ever explicitly/successfully reaching the level of Daleks/Time Lords in terms of super weapons and such in canon (at least not in the current timelines), but there are a few instances of interstellar/intergalactic-stage human vessels fighting Dalek vessels during the Time War.
Keep in mind, though, they could have been outdated Dalek craft that were pulled out of mothballs for the war effort. Also, post-humanity throughout the year 10-13 million is depicted as being far inferior to the Time Lords.
Keep in mind, though, they could have been outdated Dalek craft that were pulled out of mothballs for the war effort. Also, post-humanity throughout the year 10-13 million is depicted as being far inferior to the Time Lords.
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It was the episode of 12th Doctor?
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i found the scene. its at 0:09 to 0:22.
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See part 1 for context. Some of what I'm saying just won't make sense otherwise (not that it'll make much sense, either way).
I was wrong, and Morbius died on Karn. He survived in mental form by literally living rent free in one of the Veritas' (a Hydran) mind.
Rassilon/the Elite stripped Time Lord dissenters of the ability to Regenerate (explicitly described as 'Time Lord gifts' in a way that might imply even non-Time Lord Gallifreyans can't regenerate), and Argento was one such dissenter before her death, so the Time Lords reinstated her Time Lady status by reinstilling her with a Regeneration cycle (not just one Regeneration).
Speaking of which, Argento (who personally met Rassilon) is The Collective's mother, and her aversion to Regeneration was passed onto him.
Morbius claimed to once have had the reach of the entire galaxy.
Although Morbius' Battleships lost to Karn's, Veritas claims that many of Morbius' ships were superior in at least design/sophistication. Despite it literally having been said right in front of Proteus crewmen, the claim doesn't offend anyone, isn't contested, and isn't in any way treated as wrong/arrogant.
Even unregenerated dissenter Gallifreyans have 'thick, stubborn minds' that render mind manipulation difficult.
Morbius is said to have slaughtered a thousand worlds.
Morbius' temple/torture chamber (basically treated as his own Berghof) is on a tundra Vortex isle (called the Isle of the Dead), and has State of Grace technology that stabilised the horrific effects of Argento's induced Regeneration (including her vision problems).
Temporal art of the Civil War in the temple includes the Siege of Skaro, the return of the Vampires (who were 'typically' on their own side), and various 'new instances' that get added to the collection after 'com[ing] to light'. These art works fluctuate, but Morbius' fall on Karn is always there due to being a fixed point in time. The Sisterhood's witchcraft is supposedly responsible for the fixed nature of the outcome.
Despite the Civil War officially ending last year (by Gallifreyan chronology), these art works are hundreds and even thousands of years old due to the nature of the Temple, where time passes differently.
The temple is kitted out with mirrors that act as a form of time window (which makes sense, given that mirrors are a commonly established time travel method in Doctor Who), allowing people to see other times and even interact with them to (at least) a limited degree.
For anyone who cares, the Pythia are mentioned.
The Horn of Rassilon can supposedly communicate to anyone across space-time.
Morbius is physically resurrected in full by his forces near the end of the story. TL;DR his mind possessed the Proteus' XO, and he used the tundra of the Isle to reshape the XO's body to match his original form.
Rassilon/the Elite stripped Time Lord dissenters of the ability to Regenerate (explicitly described as 'Time Lord gifts' in a way that might imply even non-Time Lord Gallifreyans can't regenerate), and Argento was one such dissenter before her death, so the Time Lords reinstated her Time Lady status by reinstilling her with a Regeneration cycle (not just one Regeneration).
Speaking of which, Argento (who personally met Rassilon) is The Collective's mother, and her aversion to Regeneration was passed onto him.
Morbius claimed to once have had the reach of the entire galaxy.
Although Morbius' Battleships lost to Karn's, Veritas claims that many of Morbius' ships were superior in at least design/sophistication. Despite it literally having been said right in front of Proteus crewmen, the claim doesn't offend anyone, isn't contested, and isn't in any way treated as wrong/arrogant.
Even unregenerated dissenter Gallifreyans have 'thick, stubborn minds' that render mind manipulation difficult.
Morbius is said to have slaughtered a thousand worlds.
Morbius' temple/torture chamber (basically treated as his own Berghof) is on a tundra Vortex isle (called the Isle of the Dead), and has State of Grace technology that stabilised the horrific effects of Argento's induced Regeneration (including her vision problems).
Temporal art of the Civil War in the temple includes the Siege of Skaro, the return of the Vampires (who were 'typically' on their own side), and various 'new instances' that get added to the collection after 'com[ing] to light'. These art works fluctuate, but Morbius' fall on Karn is always there due to being a fixed point in time. The Sisterhood's witchcraft is supposedly responsible for the fixed nature of the outcome.
Despite the Civil War officially ending last year (by Gallifreyan chronology), these art works are hundreds and even thousands of years old due to the nature of the Temple, where time passes differently.
The temple is kitted out with mirrors that act as a form of time window (which makes sense, given that mirrors are a commonly established time travel method in Doctor Who), allowing people to see other times and even interact with them to (at least) a limited degree.
For anyone who cares, the Pythia are mentioned.
The Horn of Rassilon can supposedly communicate to anyone across space-time.
Morbius is physically resurrected in full by his forces near the end of the story. TL;DR his mind possessed the Proteus' XO, and he used the tundra of the Isle to reshape the XO's body to match his original form.
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