- 13,587
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If she was determined to kill, why did she run? Why did she pussy out immediately? Despite having fought multiple times and against the Avengers multiple times. But the fodder robots spook her?
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After seeing the reasons for scarlet witch winning, I now vote scarlet witch because strange is too slow to use the mirror dimension or the time stone.Oblivion Of The Endless said:Wanda FRA
How many votes do we have btw?
Fixed.I'm Blue daba dee daba die said:After seeing the reasons for scarlet witch winning, I now vote scarlet witch because strange is too slow to use the mirror dimension or the time stone.Oblivion Of The Endless said:Wanda FRA
How many votes do we have btw?
8 for scarlet witch (Oblivion of the Endless, Oblivion Lightning, The pen or the sword, Mr Common Sense, Schnee one, Anonymous Blank, Dzhindzholia, me)
7 strange (kidkinsney, Ionlioslite, Peter "Quicksilver" Maximoff, Ayewale, The Archdemon, TheDarkSide857, Ciruno Fortes)
1 inconclusive (Zark 2099)
So, is this under inconclusive or does the grace period start
Well, so do I apparently.AnonymousBlank said:Dear lord I need to spell it out more than I already have.
- Wanda uses her TK for offense and defense. Agreed? (Rhetorical question)
- Her TK is able to harm Thanos with ease and even damage/break his sword which goes head to head with Stormbreaker which one shots him.
- Sling rings can't damage Thanos
- Logic dictates
that I shouldn't have to be explaining this step by step like you are a toddlerthat his sling ring portals closing cannot break through her TK barriers
1. Yeah, man, it seems we somehow end up in the same MCU VS thread every time.AnonymousBlank said:Ah DarkSide, was just wondering when I would see you in an MCU vs thread again.
4 Stone Thanos (1 which does nothing for his combat potential and 3 that he doesn't even use properly) that Strange already knew the entire fight choreo to? Damn how ever did he do so well? Compared to Wanda low diffing base Thanos who just bodied a stronger Thor, a stronger Iron Man and a stronger Cap and her having no knowlwdge of what he can do besides he a thicc purple boi.
Thays nice AP, please show Thanos ever using it against Strange. Also an Island feat is meant to be impressive for a Small Country character? Reality Stone wasn't going to destroy jack. It was going to convert the 9 Realms into dark matter/cover them in shadows or some shizz.
This AP scaling is also irrelevant when you bother to watch the fights and see Strange countered brute force with hax. Who would have thunk it? And anytime he tried to use force himself, he got bullied. Wanda is using brute force too but unlike Thanos, she ignores distance and squishes his puny human body no diff.
Of course her hax pales, it barely gets used. Good thing it doesn't matter.
Maybe, but his sheer hax is too unpredictable for Ultron. Given that he fought on par with Thanos with 4 IS, and Strange's sheer hax dwarfs Ultron's, if he was in Age of Ultron he could have beaten Ultron all on his own.Schnee One said:Strange is much weaker then Ultron physically
She only casually ripped out Ultron's heart after Ultron was already weakened from being melted by Vision's beam + Thor's lightning + Iron Man's repulsor blasts, beaten up by the Hulk, and thrown out of the Quinjet to fall a long distance. Due to his beastly hax, Dr. Strange could probably defeat healthy Ultimate Ultron all on his own.Schnee One said:So can this version of Scarket witch
Even Scarket Witch in base on her file is stronger then Ultron
Pre-Infinity War Doctor Strange probably could have accomplished all the feats that Wanda accomplished. He, via sheer hax alone, beats both Ultron and Vision.Schnee One said:Except Scarket Witch, even by Her own page explicitly states by feats she's stronger then pre infinity war Doctor Strange (Marvel Cinematic Universe)
We're not even discussing these versions though, so this isn't relevant
But he can still BFR her. And his sheer hax advantage still stands.Schnee One said:Strange never attacks in Astral Plane or attack through portals ever....
We also explicitly said he has no time stone
1. If EG Thor is stronger than IW Thor, then why do we see EG Thor combining Stormbreaker's power with Mjolnir's to even fight on par with base Thanos, and even then needing Iron Man's and Captain America's help, when IW Thor, ALL ON HIS OWN, nearly oneshot Complete Infinity Gauntlet Thanos with just Stormbreaker alone?AnonymousBlank said:>EG Thor is weaker than IW Thor
I dunno about that one chief. We got WoG statements that put Thor as of the final fight as stronger than he has ever been. It also contradicts nothing considering Thanos was bloodlusted rather than casual, wasn't sneak attacked, was prepared for the fight. We also know he wasn't using a stronger than nornal beam considering he showed no strain when firing it despite "lesser" blasts requiring it.
4-5 years in Thanos' millennia long life makes him far more experienced? WoG says he is at his strongest by the final fight and nothing suggests he is weaker. A stronger Tony got oneshot by Thor and Cap didn't get Mjolnir until after Thor lost so it was basically him vs Thanos for most of the fight. He did far better than Mk 85 Tony which makes no sense if Thanos is even weaker than he was on Titan when Mk 50 Tony was landing entire combos on 2019 Thanos. Ngl, Tony seriously sucks in EG.
Hmmmm.Schnee One said:His sheer hax, includes exactly 2 hax. that's literally it.
But still, we can't ignore those entirely. It's like saying that someone who's a beast with hax, like MCU Dr. Strange, but using it is out of character would lose to a haxless, basic being relying on pure strength alone, like the 2010 Clash of the Titans Kraken.Schnee One said:<Superhuman physical characteristics
<Hax
Labelling an entire PaA section while giving zero consideration for Character or how applicable it is, is utterly ridiculous. Strange has two noteworthy hax in this key he actually uses.
Who's Weiss?
Well, maybe Ms. Potts, but seeing as how Shuri and Ms. Van Dyne were defeated by Erik Killmonger and Ava Starr who would both get destroyed by Thanos, and they were victims of the Snap for 5 years, it's safe to say that they're the same strength as they were in Infinity War/Black Panther/Ant-Man and the Wasp.The pen or the sword said:Literally not the reference his name is making (Its not a rwby reference) but whatever, couldn't that narrative inconsistency be mostly explained by the fact thanos is the same strength to slightly stronger? (Also better equipped) and all the characters have gotten stronger due to training/experience/better tech?