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Doctor Doom vs Lavos
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Probably, though idk how it matters. I'm being sincere btw.
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@Kal. The point I'm trying to make is that by no means does Doom draining Beyonder means he can affect all of the Lavoses, because it doesn't have the range to do so. Just the potency.
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Doom lacks paradox immunity.
Maybe lavos may end him before the fight even happened.
Maybe lavos may end him before the fight even happened.
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At this point, I still dont not even know how Doom is even Low 2-C because of everything he has.
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He should be at least Low 2-C
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Except he doesn't. Doom doesn't drain with powers, but with tech.Kaltias said:
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My vote's still this. He BFRs Doom, and haxes with what I said above in the few moments he's away.The real cal howard said:
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Tech's range doesn't increase due to what he drains, dude.Kaltias said:
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Heard you loud and clear, spaniard boi.
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@Cal
No offense, but BFR has long been debunked, and before you were bringing up BFR everyone you included agreed that Doom wins in hax.
No offense, but BFR has long been debunked, and before you were bringing up BFR everyone you included agreed that Doom wins in hax.
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Hmm. Maybe lavos. May end up copying his tech? He had done that did he not?
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About Doom's hax, I never said that. I, along with everyone else, said Power Drain was powerful as anything.
BFR was debunked, and I said that Doom could come back (or at least the second time). Lavos can still just push him away over and over, and because he can use his range with that gap, it's a worthwhile strategy.
I also forgot about Lavos' crazy power mimicry, which turns most of Doom's stuff against him, and gives him Doom's resistances.
BFR was debunked, and I said that Doom could come back (or at least the second time). Lavos can still just push him away over and over, and because he can use his range with that gap, it's a worthwhile strategy.
I also forgot about Lavos' crazy power mimicry, which turns most of Doom's stuff against him, and gives him Doom's resistances.
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Scans?
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...of what?
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Of Lavos's Power Mimicry replicating Doom-level abilities?
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Power Mimicry is being used as an NLF.
Lavos vs YHVH. He mimics gg.
Lavos vs YHVH. He mimics gg.
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https://youtu.be/JmYDAvWDR_M
Literally the first thing he does in base, Btw. Copies things that are long extinct, tech that hasn't been invented yet, and a dude who's been trying to kill him this entire one and is part of your party.
Also, dude, really? Scans? You know Fate would kill you if you asked for those ovo.
Literally the first thing he does in base, Btw. Copies things that are long extinct, tech that hasn't been invented yet, and a dude who's been trying to kill him this entire one and is part of your party.
Also, dude, really? Scans? You know Fate would kill you if you asked for those ovo.
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Nice debate Matt.
Power mimicry is a power he has. If it works it works.
Power mimicry is a power he has. If it works it works.
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Unless ya got feats he tanks power mimicry?
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Ok, this is out of control...
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This is turning into a shitshow...
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YHVH talks and Lavos is dead.. Don't Strawman me with that.Matthew Schroeder said:
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This is identical to the Power Null gag. Where characters are assumed to be able to automatically null, because they can null ability Y, which is a magic, and ability X is also a "magic", so they can obviously null it too!
I was going to make a thread about this NLF, but I got sidetracked. What do you guys think?
I was going to make a thread about this NLF, but I got sidetracked. What do you guys think?
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You kinda need resistance to power stealing/copying to make sure it doesn't work on you.
Otherwise it will.
Otherwise it will.
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Not quite. You need feats that it will work on someone of Doom's power and Doom's abilities. In-game it never copies hax. It just copies traditional JRPG abilities like Stat Effects and elemental magic. To say that it can copy Reality Warping is laughable.
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Power mimicry has its limits like every other hax.
First, the Lavos side prove that Lavos can copy something of this calibre, then if it works it's up to the Doom said to explain how he counters.
It's one of the most NLF powers period, so feats are needed even more
First, the Lavos side prove that Lavos can copy something of this calibre, then if it works it's up to the Doom said to explain how he counters.
It's one of the most NLF powers period, so feats are needed even more
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This thread is really becoming a mess. What happened to the days when two haxy fictional characters could just fight without no negative repercussions?
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Power Null and Mimicry are quite the NLF here.
I've seen people saying nulling fire manip makes you able to null subatomic Matter Manip before.
Also, it was one of the reasons the first Khorne vs. Arceus thread was...well.
I've seen people saying nulling fire manip makes you able to null subatomic Matter Manip before.
Also, it was one of the reasons the first Khorne vs. Arceus thread was...well.
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1. Was talking about power stealing/replicating in general. Whatever Lavos does isn't my concern.
2. Same for mind manip? Absolute 0? And so on? They work against anyone not tier 0 if they lack the resistance to it. Being higher tiered doesn't mean it won't work on you. That's the whole power>hax NLF stuff all over again. Now if they have the resistance, and its STILL clamimed it'll work, that's where NLF comes in.
2. Same for mind manip? Absolute 0? And so on? They work against anyone not tier 0 if they lack the resistance to it. Being higher tiered doesn't mean it won't work on you. That's the whole power>hax NLF stuff all over again. Now if they have the resistance, and its STILL clamimed it'll work, that's where NLF comes in.
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Lavos' everything got boosted when it went from base to DD to TD, and we see that in effect, in his absorption, all of his attacks, and more.
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Cal they are just asking for feats of his Power Mimicry being that effective. Nothing more....
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It's not a matter of resistance. It's a matter of Lavos having never copied powers like Doom's. Being able to copy a Ki technique doesn't make you able to copy soul manip for example.
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