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Doctor Doom vs Lavos
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Technology based copy.
Would be wonderful. Luckily. He does.
Would be wonderful. Luckily. He does.
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Also, no offense Kep, but that's kind of a bad example.
Fire manipulating is not a hax ability in the slightest. Its more so the kind of nulling like Beerus nulling KI energy attacks. And obviously nulling energy moves doesnt mean reality warping gets no-selled.
If people really thought that, then they didnt fully understand how hax works.
Fire manipulating is not a hax ability in the slightest. Its more so the kind of nulling like Beerus nulling KI energy attacks. And obviously nulling energy moves doesnt mean reality warping gets no-selled.
If people really thought that, then they didnt fully understand how hax works.
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Popular ones? Legit never.Dragonmasterxyz said:
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*The absolute state of this thread
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No one here is saying that as far as IK. Because copying energy attacks definitely doesnt mean you replicate hax abilities.Saikou The Lewd King said:
Hax and energy attacks are totally different.
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He copied Magus. A dude who doesn't only have hax, and his powers outstrip his haxed mother's, but uses it to combat Lavos. So please don't say that there's no feats of copying things on Doom's level.
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@Kukui
Saying you can mimic Doom's hax just because you've shown the ability to take RPG stats is almost as bad.
Saying you can mimic Doom's hax just because you've shown the ability to take RPG stats is almost as bad.
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Man kep.
Only Matt had. He just assumed.
Only Matt had. He just assumed.
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Magus' hax is literally elemental magic and little more. He never copied:
Reality Warping, Spatial Manipulation, Time Manipulation, Soul Manipulation, Matter Manipulation, Physics Manipulation, Probability Manipulation, Conceptual Manipulation, etc.
Reality Warping, Spatial Manipulation, Time Manipulation, Soul Manipulation, Matter Manipulation, Physics Manipulation, Probability Manipulation, Conceptual Manipulation, etc.
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Once again, not talking about Lavos Kep.Kepekley23 said:
Talking about Power stealing/replicating in general. Added with I dont even see how copying stats means you copy hax. Otherwise Mewtwo would he having a field day with this.
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Even if I didn't have that example, going the RPG stuff route is nothing but game mechanics.Kepekley23 said:
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I hope you realize that half of this argument is circular.The real cal howard said:
Lavos > Magnus > Magnus' Mom = Lavos
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> Man kep.
Matt didn't assume anything. Magus's hax isn't anything reomtely on the level of Doom
Matt didn't assume anything. Magus's hax isn't anything reomtely on the level of Doom
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It isn't remotely on the level of Base Doom, let alone on the level of Doom with the powers of Galactus + Cosmic Cube + Three other stuff.
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Guys.......I will Taikyoku this thread if ya'll don't chill.
Taikyoku is Ready to launch anytime.
Taikyoku is Ready to launch anytime.
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No but lavos copied plenty more than just >It just copies traditional JRPG abilities like Stat Effects and elemental magic.
He being kinda plenty wrong.
He being kinda plenty wrong.
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Honestly I think this thread is a little lost...
Good luck.
(Yeah, honestly I haven't contributed much to the discussion, but I don't know much about Lavos or Doom, so...)
Good luck.
(Yeah, honestly I haven't contributed much to the discussion, but I don't know much about Lavos or Doom, so...)
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Lavos>>>>>>Zeal
Magus>Zeal
Lavos>>>Magus
Let me go through the things that Lavos has copied:
Blood Manipulation, Instant Death, Transmutation, Durability Negation, Magic, Telekinesis, Fusionism, Duplication, Regenerationn, Power Drain, Power Nullification, Teleportation, Telepathy, etc.
And that's from the bosses that he chooses to copy alone. No doubt that he can copy fodder, which puts a ton more on that.
So yeah, not just lol RPG stuff.
Magus>Zeal
Lavos>>>Magus
Let me go through the things that Lavos has copied:
Blood Manipulation, Instant Death, Transmutation, Durability Negation, Magic, Telekinesis, Fusionism, Duplication, Regenerationn, Power Drain, Power Nullification, Teleportation, Telepathy, etc.
And that's from the bosses that he chooses to copy alone. No doubt that he can copy fodder, which puts a ton more on that.
So yeah, not just lol RPG stuff.
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Since when did Doom having more hax disprove my point that Lavos has shown to copy loads of hax? That's like me saying that I used fire on Kirby, but because he's not made out of spaghetti, that means it won't work on the Flying Spahetti Monster.Kepekley23 said:
Lavos can copy hax. That's what matters.
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Literally none of these abilities hold a candle to the sole of Doom's armoured boots. Which is where Lavos belongs.
No offense but I see no way Lavos is winning.
No offense but I see no way Lavos is winning.
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We just gonna keep forgetting technology based copy?
Which honestly lavos had feats of doing.
Which honestly lavos had feats of doing.
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Which still doesnt mean Doom is suddenly untouchable.
Cal proved Lavos can copy hax
If you can copy/absorb hax, and the opponent has no resistance to it, theres no reason why the hax can't work against them.
Cal proved Lavos can copy hax
If you can copy/absorb hax, and the opponent has no resistance to it, theres no reason why the hax can't work against them.
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Doom's armor does have defenses against his own technology being used against him and absorbing Galactus' powers should grant him his resistances too
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@Cal
That's a false equivalence. It's like saying Lavos can copy someone who has Cold Manip 100 million degrees below Absolute Zero just because he can see the Invisible Pink Unicorn.
That's a false equivalence. It's like saying Lavos can copy someone who has Cold Manip 100 million degrees below Absolute Zero just because he can see the Invisible Pink Unicorn.
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Yeah but prom. Even better.
>Doom's armor does have defenses against his own technology being used against him.
Lavos had now been given a free win card. Well for hax from technology anyway.
>Doom's armor does have defenses against his own technology being used against him.
Lavos had now been given a free win card. Well for hax from technology anyway.
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Doom with Galactus's powers is shredding him apart.
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Did ya read the literal next line?
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I did. It hardly changes anything.
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Which nulled my point how exactly?
Technology? Fodder now. Anything else free game man.
Technology? Fodder now. Anything else free game man.
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Look at the level of tech Lavos copied.
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Doom is tearing Lavos apart more than Lisa teared Tommy Wiseau apart.
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Good thing Lavos is the literal posterboy for Resistance Negation.Promestein said:
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All these people talking about "Lol Doom's powers are tech based so they are easily copied", I have a question:
Do you think Lavos can copy The Downstreamers' tech? Because literally nothing changes in the argument. Just because some power is science-based doesn't mean it is automatically the same.
Do you think Lavos can copy The Downstreamers' tech? Because literally nothing changes in the argument. Just because some power is science-based doesn't mean it is automatically the same.
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Yeah and?Kepekley23 said:
On other note.
Lavos via Doom time travel technology.
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Was just about to say that.
Look at Lavos's profile. The level of tech he copied is not remotely Doom level. It's not even Tony level.
Saying he can copy tech that haxes its way through people like Galactus and Odin is a ridiculous NLF.
Look at Lavos's profile. The level of tech he copied is not remotely Doom level. It's not even Tony level.
Saying he can copy tech that haxes its way through people like Galactus and Odin is a ridiculous NLF.
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That's a terrible analogy, my man.Kepekley23 said:
What you and Matt are saying is that if Lavos copies fire, water, earth, and wind, because he hasn't copied each electricity that means he can't.
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Not if they, again, lack any sort of resistance of that tech being replicatable.Kepekley23 said:
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Still missing the point. Unless Doom's hax is higher d, because Lavos has been shown copying hax, he can. Because it's totally not like Lavos has a metric ton of it on his own, so clearly copying reality warping is sooo far out of his reach.Kepekley23 said:
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